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bragnouff wrote: ↑
Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:35 pm
I have a windsurfing background, got a Gong wing, and I don't think the handles are that much of an issue compared to a boom. OK, you're not sliding your hand up or down a boom, but it's very easy to seamlessly transition from one handle to the other, and there's even enough room to have both hands temporarily on the same handle in hand to hand transitions. This doesn't require much attention, nor a visual check. And even if it did, the harsh reality of the sport is that it's all pretty much happening in slow mo, with plenty of time to spot your next hand position if needed.
Twisting your hands around the boom to alter the pitch of the wing has been touted as an advantage, but it's nowhere near as effective as using the wind to do it for you with the right back hand movement.
Arguably, the boom is better when riding one handed to wave at the camera, as you can find the perfect balance with millimetric adjustment. But that can also be done with the intermediate handles, or most likely, when we start to use a harness.
I have to take glance when placing the rear hand after a transition. Front hand - no dramas.
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Horst Sergio wrote: ↑
Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:43 pm
I think I am going to sell mine by the way as going back to 100% kiting for many reasons.
But if I ever will be on a spot with nice waves I am happy to now know how to handle wingfoils
Horst, So why are you going back to 100% kiting?? Especially since you already have the gear and skills??
Been using a 4 and 5 m Duotone from the get go. Going to order a Gong Pulse (6 or 7 m, haven’t decided yet) when it is released later this month. Looking forward to trying handles and having more luff stability. Just don’t feel like spending $900-1000 on the 6m Wasp or F-one. Greg at BRM should have some cool wings coming out soon but I figure his wings will be expensive as well. We’ll see. Happy to experiment with Gong for now (~$620 usd for a 6m delivered). In a year I suspect the current wings will be obsolete
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Tue Feb 04, 2020 12:55 am
Peter_Frank wrote: ↑
Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:46 pm
Anyone tried both the Duotone with a boom, and the "rest" with grab handles?
Feels a lot more right for windsurfers with a clean boom, where you can grab whereever you want intuitively.
Also, you can adjust the profile depth so possible to use in more wind without too much power.
I dont mind the length of the batten, doesnt matter compared to the board lenght
But Duotone is the only one making wings this way, or ???
I know the wings can be totally different most likely, so not asking about a comparison between wings, but between bar/boom versus grab handles
IF anyone has tried both, maybe just on land.
Or any thoughts even if never tried?
I have tried Naish, Duotone, Gong and WASP's....
I personally think the boom is somewhat easier when you start gybing and tacking in terms of moving your hands around (ie it is easier to find the boom without looking).
But the handles are not that much harder. I just have to the spot the grab handle I want first, then snatch it.
The boom is also much much easier when you are re-positioning your hand, ie simply slide it (no viewing required).
I imagine over time, the requirement to look for your grab handle probably lessens, but after 100 odd sessions, I am still looking.
This is Brett Lickle's preferred hold on the Duotone when riding a wave.
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