Pansh Genesis and some tuning

[foilholio]

MathsExpert go study some maths that is not how you write ratios. Mixer ratios have never included the bar. 4Z:2C:1B or 421.

[kitexpert]

Mixer ratios have never included the bar. 4Z:2C:1B or 421.

LOL, they always have and it is the most important thing. It defines how much (particular part of the) kite moves, how much it changes its AoA. Only silly ways to describe mixer ratios forget it.

This is getting embarrassing, you foilholio constantly go under my lowest expectations. I don't enjoy this, actually I think I have had enough of this BS now.

[ljackov]

"However this shorter bar travel may lead to unintentional back stalls and at least it makes system more critical to small changes."

Actually it's quite the opposite. You need to pull the bar really hard in order to cause a back stall, so this is no way near unintentional. With the heavier bar you get much better feel of the kite as you need to apply twice the force to get it turning. With a lighter bar the tension is so low you don't actually feel what the kite's doing so you need to keep looking at it.

[foilholio]

Jacko just largely ignore "kitexpert/englishexpert/mathexpert". While he does seem to know somethings about kites many of the things he says are completely detached from reality. He has attacked your mixer as being irrelevant, without even trying it. He also regularly attacks the designs of Flysurfer and Concept Air among others, ego I think can not begin to describe what type of person he must be. Needless to say in his mind he knows everything to know about foil kites. I am just glad you being new to foil kites have just proven how stupid he is and infact we all are, me included! Great work!


Oh and does anyone have the line plan for the Genesis 2019?

[foilholio]

[bay surfer]

Kind of like Foilolio" windtip Mod for my Aurora 2 10m, Just removed the Z8 Bridle, and gave the C7 2cm extra at the attachment rig area.
Kite still turns on a dime, but with less tip fold turning in Gusty light wind.

[foilholio]

Nice! You are the first feedback I have for it.

[S2000kitesurfer]

Kind of like Foilolio" windtip Mod for my Aurora 2 10m, Just removed the Z8 Bridle, and gave the C7 2cm extra at the attachment rig area.
Kite still turns on a dime, but with less tip fold turning in Gusty light wind.

This was my next mod cheers for saving me time .

[foilholio]

I'll add my mod was to just disconnect the tip Z or Z8 for that kite, and not lengthening C7. Intention of the mod was to increase performance which it does, it also happens to do many other things like improve relaunch, reduce backstall and make the tip more stable. Of note making C or C7 at the tip longer would likely make it less stable. I could be wrong though as it also depends on the relationship with B, but generally longer there is less stable. With Z disconnected though it should overwhelm C being lengthened, so keeping it stable.

The kite above has some quite unusual bridling for the tip. I guess that type of bridling achieves quicker turning. Kites will often connect B like that in A position at the tip but this kite does that with B further in and then uses C at the A position on the tip and then also use a ring pulley from C to Z for the B position at the tip. On the A15 they use B like that at the tip and when I removed C I had the fix B to A bridles to help get it stable or maybe to look right. I have heard this method of transposing bridle positions as wing warping. On the Psycho4 it moves all the bridle positions forward, Z is most noticeable as well B ends up as A at the tip. I would think on some kites you could connect Z to where C is. I would like to understand this more and experiment with it. Maybe I can get B tip back on B bridles on the A15.

[foilholio]

So the original inventor of the jackomixer is.... Funalex...in 2014 and Regis was present, I think I even read it.

https://www.tubelesskite.net/t4779p510-pansh-aurora

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Turbomixer? Funmixer?

Regis did you forget reading this? Making the image? What happened?

Don't worry I definitely read and saw this image before too.... but you made it!

Where/how did funalex acquire these talents?!?!?