slowboat wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:52 am
Most people feel a large wing (bigger than 1600, for example) is "too big" for kiting. Yet, for winging, the foils are at least that big and often much bigger and they have no trouble riding swell and waves. Is the difference the lift created by the kite vs the wing thing?
It is all about finding the balance that works.
When a foilwing is "too big" for kiting, it is simply because it feels slow and boring, AND, most importantly, it turns slow.
So we settle around sizes 750 to 1200 cm2 or something, depending on what you want, for kitefoil freeride and waves - works perfectly for "todays" style in kitefoiling.
It is not, IMO and experience, because it lifts too much - no problem no matter how big the foilwing gets.
When using a wing, we can get the same upward lift and forward power as with a kite - just a matter of the right wing size or wind.
BUT, with a kite we almost always have pull from the kite, it never "stops" really, even in jibes you can have it pull all the way around.
With a wing on a wingfoil, we very often like to ride without pull, super easy to sheet out, or just let it hang in your hand, so we get a lot of freedom just like foiling without "anything".
This is one of the reasons it is fun and can give us options not possible with a kite.
Making transitions, we alos have moments without any pull at all, while turning the wing and changing hands t.ex - so a bigger wing is great.
Also, for going wingfoiling in lower winds, pumping to get up on the foil and stay there, is needed, and requires a bigger foilwing.
Wingfoil boards are also a lot bigger, and it seems (right now) that the foilwing sizes have settled around 1500 to 2500 cm2.
They turn like dogs these sizes, compared to a kitefoil wing - but, it does not matter, as it turns quite balanced when you are wingfoiling, and feels right.
IMO it is because everything feels and works great on a wingfoil, with these sizes 15 to 2500 cm2.
Two very different sports actually, thus not the same foilwing sizes used.
Peter