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Re: How I built my own kite surfing bar

Postby Tomlutz » Tue Mar 10, 2020 6:12 pm

Herman wrote:
Sat Nov 16, 2019 1:47 pm
Tomlutz,

Stumbled across the worn carbon bar, attached a photo in case you were interested in the orientation of the wear. Perhaps you would prefer the replaceable fair lead to take the most wear.. Of course orientation of wear may be style related.......

The notch at the bottom of the hole is all wear!

Regards Herman
Herman, you were right. I underestimated forces and friction and had to find a solution, see the picture (the metal part is from a sailing store, and I put an aluminium tape). Otherwise, I have now used this bar several times and I am quite happy with it.
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Re: How I built my own kite surfing bar

Postby faklord » Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:25 am

Tomlutz
Your quick release looks different/interesting.
What is it?

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Re: How I built my own kite surfing bar

Postby Tomlutz » Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:59 am

faklord wrote:
Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:25 am
Tomlutz
Your quick release looks different/interesting.
What is it?
Flysurfer safety leash release, the pin is strong enough to take the full forces of the front lines, I am pretty confident (anyway only 50%, the other font line attaches directly to the metal ring). Then I use a wichard to eventually disconnect completely from kite.

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Re: How I built my own kite surfing bar

Postby peppedurso » Tue Mar 17, 2020 1:07 am

Hi Tomlutz,

I’m building my own bar and would like to know if you feel any discomfort using off axis main line.

Thank you in advance for the feedback

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Re: How I built my own kite surfing bar

Postby Tomlutz » Tue Mar 17, 2020 9:56 am

peppedurso wrote:
Tue Mar 17, 2020 1:07 am
Hi Tomlutz,

I’m building my own bar and would like to know if you feel any discomfort using off axis main line.

Thank you in advance for the feedback
Hi, you mean that the front lines don t go through a center hole in the bar? I asked myself the same question and observed no disadvantage. However, I want to have the lines as close to the bar as possible, this is why I did not want a low friction ring attached to the bar as a fairlead, as others have done and posted here, and I realized that the hole should not be too wide, a little hole feels better and gives better control. As I have the adjuster placed inside the bar tube, I need space there. To have the fairlead on top of the bar also makes it less likely to mistake right and left side of the bar - something I still confuse sometimes.

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Re: How I built my own kite surfing bar

Postby peppedurso » Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:45 am

Hi Tomlutz,

Thank you for reply, I’m going to use a square bridge and rivets to bound it to the bar. Depower tube will just touch the bar, not going to be far.

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Re: How I built my own kite surfing bar

Postby bb615 » Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:05 am

Where do you find inox A4 rivets?
Thank you

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Re: How I built my own kite surfing bar

Postby merl » Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:07 am

Tomlutz wrote:
Tue Mar 10, 2020 6:12 pm

Herman, you were right. I underestimated forces and friction and had to find a solution, see the picture (the metal part is from a sailing store, and I put an aluminium tape). Otherwise, I have now used this bar several times and I am quite happy with it.
Do you ride with the line above the bar or below the bar? I have seen both ways around (and I wonder if it makes a difference).

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Re: How I built my own kite surfing bar

Postby peppedurso » Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:26 am

merl wrote:
Tomlutz wrote:
Tue Mar 10, 2020 6:12 pm

Herman, you were right. I underestimated forces and friction and had to find a solution, see the picture (the metal part is from a sailing store, and I put an aluminium tape). Otherwise, I have now used this bar several times and I am quite happy with it.
Do you ride with the line above the bar or below the bar? I have seen both ways around (and I wonder if it makes a difference).
I would say riding the depower above the bar wold be very inconvenient for hands placing.
bb615 wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:05 am
Where do you find inox A4 rivets?
Thank you
I’m looking for aluminum rivets, plenty in any sailing shop. Also some of the rivets have an o ring to make the hole watertight.

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Re: How I built my own kite surfing bar

Postby merl » Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:51 am

peppedurso wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:26 am

I would say riding the depower above the bar wold be very inconvenient for hands placing.
It's more than 12(?) years since I last rode with this kind of bar and I don't remember any big difference in having the line on top compared to a regular bar. But maybe there is an advantage over a regular bar in having the line underneath?


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