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Re: Whichard as mini chicken loop

Postby downunder » Mon May 18, 2020 11:33 am

iriejohn wrote:
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mede wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 8:33 am
A drawback I see is that you possibly miss the yellow ball in a high stress scenario. Plus the ball will be flapping around, might get stuck between the slider rope and the harness (or somewhere else), and trigger accidental release (don't go into waves with this setup).

In the early 2000 years, when proper QRs where not yet available, we all played around with wichards a lot. There were solutions that used a thin pin connecting 2 balls on either side of the release trigger. It works, but not as well [reliably as] as a modern QR like the IQR
This.

Which can happen even with a much prised Ozone, isn't it? Or my FS. or...


To OP, the beauty of your setup is having Wichard on all bars connected to a kite permanently.

So we just move the Wichard from bar to bar. Easy. No other release can.

Many many racers are using W. Guessing because simplicity and no tools needed to disassemble.

It is a personal preference 100%.

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Re: Whichard as mini chicken loop

Postby Breze » Mon May 18, 2020 12:06 pm

" No other release can" ?
What about this? Much smarter than the Wichard , i also have.
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Seatbelt Qlick from Infexion.nl
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Re: Whichard as mini chicken loop

Postby downunder » Mon May 18, 2020 12:50 pm

Ha ha

This guys need time to prove themselves. I wish them luck.

D.

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My W is for TT, not a rope, so completely different game:





I showed you mine, you show me yours ;)

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Re: Whichard as mini chicken loop

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Re: Whichard as mini chicken loop

Postby Bille » Mon May 18, 2020 2:44 pm

Breze wrote:
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...
Have a look :naughty:
Was that 286-Lb ? ------------ :o

And , what does it cost ?

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Re: Whichard as mini chicken loop

Postby jumptheshark » Mon May 18, 2020 2:59 pm

They are european. Kg !

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Re: Whichard as mini chicken loop

Postby downunder » Mon May 18, 2020 3:03 pm

Breze wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 2:10 pm
https://m.facebook.com/pg/infexionkiteb ... l&mt_nav=0
Have a look :naughty:

Does it work with a hook? :naughty:

And this is discussion for W, u highjacking ;)

Heaps of ppl are using W as a secondary release. I think there is no need for that particularly in DIY builds.

The W will outlive all plastic and rubberish releases out there. It's good investment for long term. Maintenance free. No plastic parts, nothing to jam except obvious issue.

As said and needs repeating, 100% personal taste.

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Re: Whichard as mini chicken loop

Postby merl » Mon May 18, 2020 3:16 pm

I used a wichard attached to my harness for many years. The key to making these kind of releases spinning is to have the mini leash attached above the swivel. I also added a bearing swivel and it worked well. You really only want one of these, attached to the harness, not one per bar.

But this is all history. There is a much better solution for about the same price, namely the seat-belt release from Infexion as mentioned above. The biggest pain with the wichard is accidental release. If you fix that then you have the problem of quick release when you really need it. The infexion release does everything right in this regard: easy to find push-away release like all other chicken loops, unlikely to release accidentally (but time will tell). Mini leash attachment point above the swivel.

No association with infexion, I just think this is a great and unique product. I don't think this is a topic hijack as I am comparing directly with wichard and have used both. Maybe the OP is not interested in anything but the wichard, but other readers of this thread might be.
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Re: Whichard as mini chicken loop

Postby iriejohn » Mon May 18, 2020 4:44 pm

downunder wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 11:33 am
iriejohn wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 9:26 am
mede wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 8:33 am
A drawback I see is that you possibly miss the yellow ball in a high stress scenario. Plus the ball will be flapping around, might get stuck between the slider rope and the harness (or somewhere else), and trigger accidental release (don't go into waves with this setup).

In the early 2000 years, when proper QRs where not yet available, we all played around with wichards a lot. There were solutions that used a thin pin connecting 2 balls on either side of the release trigger. It works, but not as well [reliably as] as a modern QR like the IQR
This.
Which can happen even with a much prised Ozone, isn't it?

I wouldn't know, I don't use an Ozone QR.

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Re: Whichard as mini chicken loop

Postby flying doctor » Mon May 18, 2020 4:56 pm

merl wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 3:16 pm
I used a wichard attached to my harness for many years. The key to making these kind of releases spinning is to have the mini leash attached above the swivel. I also added a bearing swivel and it worked well. You really only want one of these, attached to the harness, not one per bar.

But this is all history. There is a much better solution for about the same price, namely the seat-belt release from Infexion as mentioned above. The biggest pain with the wichard is accidental release. If you fix that then you have the problem of quick release when you really need it. The infexion release does everything right in this regard: easy to find push-away release like all other chicken loops, unlikely to release accidentally (but time will tell). Mini leash attachment point above the swivel.

No association with infexion, I just think this is a great and unique product. I don't think this is a topic hijack as I am comparing directly with wichard and have used both. Maybe the OP is not interested in anything but the wichard, but other readers of this thread might be.
After all this info I think you're absolutely right Merl, luckily there are better products now. The main reason for me to try out this setup was the fact I had these parts lying around. The wichard came from some old (2003?) integrated harness with quick release setup, I've actually completely forgotten how it worked exactly.

With foiling I like the shortest possible loop and a long depower line so this seemed to fit the bill.
But the infexion and kiteattitude seem a lot safer.

Thanks for all your replies!


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