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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby a99 » Sat May 30, 2020 6:56 am

live2play wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 1:47 pm
Awesome to see Moses come through in making the 671 for the kite fuselage.
Cant understand what is Moses reason to release the same wing for two fuselages and where is point to release race fuselage than if they doubling wings on that?

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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby grigorib » Sat May 30, 2020 3:19 pm

a99 wrote:
Sat May 30, 2020 6:56 am
live2play wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 1:47 pm
Awesome to see Moses come through in making the 671 for the kite fuselage.
Cant understand what is Moses reason to release the same wing for two fuselages and where is point to release race fuselage than if they doubling wings on that?
SparD said here earlier that cleaner upper surface of the wing improves efficiency, that would be a reason they changed race fuselage design.

viewtopic.php?p=1075957#p1075957

The 671 was placed in the 2020 catalog as a windsurf wing, and after riding 637 I’m so glad race wings are still available for regular fuselage because they ride like a dream.

Overall - it seems Moses is well funded to play and make as many versions and variations as they desire. I’m glad they’re able to.

One more wing I wish they released is ~900 sq.cm wing mountable onto kite fuselage with swept back leading edge

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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby grigorib » Sun May 31, 2020 11:17 pm

What a beautiful bunch to try kitefoiling with
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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby grigorib » Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:05 am

Two and a half years ago kitefoilers took over Moses surf/SUP setup and made it a true success. Time to take over windsurf wings now?

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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby geron » Fri Jun 05, 2020 8:14 pm

grigorib wrote:
Sun May 31, 2020 11:17 pm
What a beautiful bunch to try kitefoiling with
Yes indeed; I wonder how the 671 or the 800 would enrich and complement the 633.
And how does the 695 compare with these two also

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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby kuit » Fri Jun 05, 2020 8:42 pm

Can anyone say something about the difference between the Moses Comet (637/420/111) and the new Race kit (670/421/106)?

Does the new kit have a significantly lower stall speed?

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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby grigorib » Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:02 am

So I have a question.

Besides 671 and 800 wings what would be a reason to make/own/ride any other kite wing (fitting kite fuselage)?

Speaking of current 558/550/590/718/695 wings
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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby Brizair10 » Sat Jun 13, 2020 3:11 pm

anyone tried the W 1000 for kiting ?

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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby gmb13 » Sat Jun 13, 2020 5:32 pm

Brizair10 wrote:
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anyone tried the W 1000 for kiting ?
Yes. I have kited with it a few times. It works. It has great lowend, but it needs a pretty big radius to turn, and other than going really fast in really light wind with a small kite, it is not really that practical for Kitefoil applications.

It is amazing for winging.
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Re: Moses 2019-2020

Postby geron » Sat Jun 13, 2020 6:09 pm

I was thinking that turning with part of a tip out of the water with a small mast might be good. I could go really slow but also real fast, I can use smaller kites and cavitate one side of the wing and still have enough wing to fly...

So, all this looked grate to me; of course, I haven't tried it. jaja


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