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Re: Pocket board building

Postby Wilcos » Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:58 pm

Hey all!

I am in the process of building a foil board from 18mm thick paulownia.
The wood has been cut into 7, 5cm strips which I am going to epoxy together, I have already formed my nose rocker.

I would like some advice on glassing schedule.Thinking 6oz top and bottom wrapped around rails, as well as 15cm strip of 6oz top and bottom running from tail to just forward of where my front foot will be. Also another patch of 6oz under the plate. Do you guys think this is a bit overkill?

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Re: Pocket board building

Postby downunder » Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:33 am

Yes it is.

The main problem is pulling the bolts out from relatively soft Paulownia. I would glass complete board with no more than 120 grams FG.

But, there will be huge springback. How did you create nose rocker?

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Re: Pocket board building

Postby Wilcos » Mon Aug 31, 2020 7:16 am

Hey Downunder

I glued wedges to achieve e the rocker then cut it out with a jigsaw. Was trying to rush things in the first wedges and glue all six pieces at once so alignment ain't perfect so now need to glue the strips up with epoxy as there are small gaps.

I will take your advice on the 4 oz with the 6 oz patches I.mentioned. As for the attachment I am using M8 x 15mm big head T nuts embedded with epoxy, didn't think this would be a weak point
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Re: Pocket board building

Postby Wilcos » Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:57 am

I have made a paulownia skim board previously, I cut this down and adapted it to a foil board. I was a bit impatient and took it for a test burn before re enforcing around the plate.

It split the board up the middle, I'm sure the concave down to 12mm didn't help. This was glassed with 4oz top and bottom which is why I'm being cautious.
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Re: Pocket board building

Postby TomW » Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:40 pm

Wilcos wrote:
Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:58 pm
Hey all!

I am in the process of building a foil board from 18mm thick paulownia.
The wood has been cut into 7, 5cm strips which I am going to epoxy together, I have already formed my nose rocker.

I would like some advice on glassing schedule.Thinking 6oz top and bottom wrapped around rails, as well as 15cm strip of 6oz top and bottom running from tail to just forward of where my front foot will be. Also another patch of 6oz under the plate. Do you guys think this is a bit overkill?
You should mill out 20mm ( approximately) holes and fill with epoxy glas mix at each mast bolt center before lamination.

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Re: Pocket board building

Postby thewindego » Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:41 am

The foil plate must sit flat. Looks like your concave was the main problem. At least the long axis held just the weak other axis let go. Its salvageable just fill that concave with something so the plate has a solid bearing and a little extra. Me I would go WAY extra ;)

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Re: Pocket board building

Postby downunder » Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:26 am

TomW wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:40 pm
Wilcos wrote:
Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:58 pm
Hey all!

I am in the process of building a foil board from 18mm thick paulownia.
The wood has been cut into 7, 5cm strips which I am going to epoxy together, I have already formed my nose rocker.

I would like some advice on glassing schedule.Thinking 6oz top and bottom wrapped around rails, as well as 15cm strip of 6oz top and bottom running from tail to just forward of where my front foot will be. Also another patch of 6oz under the plate. Do you guys think this is a bit overkill?
You should mill out 20mm ( approximately) holes and fill with epoxy glas mix at each mast bolt center before lamination.
More important is to place a bit of FG under the head, to resist puling increasing the surface area. Just like using a big washer.

With just filling the holes, the surface area is the same. No benefit at all in my books.

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Re: Pocket board building

Postby thewindego » Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:06 am

Thats true if you are doing wood core and light skins. With a substantial skin and the dreaded foam core then the resin/glass plugs work well as they tie the 2 really good skins together....done. With wood and some paper skins yes you need your plan...but.

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Re: Pocket board building

Postby Wilcos » Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:09 am

downunder wrote:
Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:26 am
TomW wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:40 pm
Wilcos wrote:
Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:58 pm
Hey all!

I am in the process of building a foil board from 18mm thick paulownia.
The wood has been cut into 7, 5cm strips which I am going to epoxy together, I have already formed my nose rocker.

I would like some advice on glassing schedule.Thinking 6oz top and bottom wrapped around rails, as well as 15cm strip of 6oz top and bottom running from tail to just forward of where my front foot will be. Also another patch of 6oz under the plate. Do you guys think this is a bit overkill?
You should mill out 20mm ( approximately) holes and fill with epoxy glas mix at each mast bolt center before lamination.
More important is to place a bit of FG under the head, to resist puling increasing the surface area. Just like using a big washer.

With just filling the holes, the surface area is the same. No benefit at all in my books.
So you recon it is better to have the washer of the big head on the deck with some layers of glass underneath instead of inside the board?
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Re: Pocket board building

Postby downunder » Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:25 am

No,

FG replaces washers. like this:
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