Pemba wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 2:57 pm
I agree with you that an increasing (global) population is not a good thing and that it should come up in the CO2 debate (but doesn't really). But reducing it easier said than done. Do you have any proposals ? I'm not aware that "the left" has an increasing population as an ideal. If you refer not to an increasing global population but to an increasing population in "rich" countries, by "importing" people, I doubt it has a significant influence on the world population and the environment.
But I might be wrong.
Native populations of Western countries are naturally reducing their population by choosing to not have children above replacement rates. This is economically devastating to the banking system which exists solely on the basis of money as debt. The banking system that we have today, cannot function with a declining population. Other banking systems absolutely do work with a declining population, but are not seen as advantageous those who administer the current world monetary policy.
Thus immigration is both naturally and purposely steered toward importing people who will increase the population of Western countries. This increases the population of the World by immediately increasing the population of Western countries a small amount, and significantly increasing the population of Western countries by a much larger amount one to two Generations down the line. Second and third world Nations also gain more room and available resources for those remaining in those countries to increase the population there.
With regards to this problem, both left and right are guilty of furthering it. But the left, who holds environmentalism as a and ideal, is actually working against its own environmentalism with the importation of people who will increase the population. This is a large problem on the left because inconsistency of logic, or working against your own goals, without your own constituency calling you out on it, is "rule by insanity".