The other things are my main point! And the environmentalism of the past, present, and likely future, are steering us toward even more disaster with the things you would like to debate. The absolute absurdity of the left attempting to solve climate change when they have shown the ultimate in incompetency of solving any other environmental issues in the past, is truly sad - sad that there is so much zealotry on the left, and no accountability.Pemba wrote: ↑Tue Sep 08, 2020 2:25 pmI'd not like to debate the CO2 part of your argument, just the other things I mentioned (plastics, pollutants etc.), from the way I wrote I thought that was evident actually. I think these things are the result of population increase and that they are devastating to the environment. Do you disagree ? If so then yes, I'd like to debate/explore that, maybe you can educate me on that. Although I'm quite aware that the topic here is CO2, not other environmental issues.
The other thing I had asked already, why do you keep on bringing up a cooler climate and its problems ? Are you concerned that reducing CO2 emissions as proposed by AGW believers might lead to a cooling climate ?
The main reason to bring up cooling is that of the three climates you can have, warming, stability (no change), and cooling, cooling is devastating. However, stability is impossible and his never really existed on this Earth. The climate is always warming or Cooling. So which one would you prefer given all other parameters, such as population increase?
The topic of this thread is not CO2, but rather climate change. And upon in-depth examination of this topic you find that the climate change debate is farcical in it's past, its present, and the future path of upon which we are on.
We can't solve any anthropogenic climate change with an increasing population, regardless of whether or not that climate change is real. No matter how many more people the Earth can support while it is warming, it will not be able to support the current amount of people in a cooling climate.
We also seem to be completely incompetent, on the left, for solving any of the problems that we create for ourselves. The one thing the left seems good at creating is new problems, or making existing problems much worse and in many examples now impossible to solve.
And the supposed solution for this farcical anthropogenic climate change, is that we build a bunch of new technology in second and third world countries where no environmental policy exist to prevent actual damage to the environment from the construction of these supposed technological solutions?
We are solving things which aren't actually problems given our other problems, with more problems. Good luck with that!