More likely that the other countries have lesser means to identify the cases, or provide fraudulent statistics. Look at the deaths per million -- US numbers are in line with EU.
More likely that the other countries have lesser means to identify the cases, or provide fraudulent statistics. Look at the deaths per million -- US numbers are in line with EU.
Nice try spreading misinformation. Trump must be proud of you.tegirinenashi wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:15 amMore likely that the other countries have lesser means to identify the cases, or provide fraudulent statistics. Look at the deaths per million -- US numbers are in line with EU.
Current climatological models can be made to show warming or cooling, depending on inputs within the allowable margin of error for those inputs. So no, current climatological models have not benefited from supercomputing or anything we thought we figured out in the 1800's. Sure the theory seems sound and is best we have, but our current understanding is absolutely still in its infancy. Nor has out understanding of how to "weight" each variable in the model, improved. And actually, there is still some debate as to how the model "adjusts" to known variables, known unknown variables, and unknown unknown variables.SimonP wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:15 pmFalse. Every climate model shows a warming trend with continuing greenhouse gas emissions.Matteo V wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 6:33 pmCurrent climatological models can be made to show warming or cooling, depending on inputs within the allowable margin of error for those inputs. So no, current climatological models have not benefited from supercomputing or anything we thought we figured out in the 1800's. Sure the theory seems sound and is best we have, but our current understanding is absolutely still in its infancy.
Even if the evidence was "undeniable", it is fear mongering and an outright lie, to attribute everything bad to AGW AND imply that it would not have happened if we cut CO2 emissions to zero. I mean, does the church of AGW actualy preach that earth would be a paradise with continued human population and economic growth, if we adjust pay huge carbon taxes for everything including breathing???SimonP wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:15 pmNo, but the probability of an area in the PNW being burnt has increased significantly in recent decades.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.11 ... 019-0062-8
https://www.fs.fed.us/pnw/pubs/pnw_gtr8 ... 70_011.pdf
Hurricane intensity is increasing because of warmer ocean temperatures and warmer air being able to hold more water vapour.
https://www.c2es.org/content/hurricanes ... te-change/
The evidence is undeniable.
I think this should fix that! Unless we actually are on track for 100,001 storms this year.slide wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:26 amcovid is another issue, trump and his anti climate change denial is a very big problem. and the storm namers are running out of names for storms as they are coming so thick and fast , with extreme weather our future and it will become more extreme each year , so we can watch it happen or will we act
Palmer, I think it is unlikely you mean that data collection in the second and third world is just as good as in the first world. I mean China has been caught falsifying its own data on this, and India admits it cannot possibly generate any reliable numbers.palmbeacher wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 6:17 amNice try spreading misinformation. Trump must be proud of you.tegirinenashi wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:15 amMore likely that the other countries have lesser means to identify the cases, or provide fraudulent statistics. Look at the deaths per million -- US numbers are in line with EU.
Is this what you mean?Matteo V wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 2:26 pmPalmer, I think it is unlikely you mean that data collection in the second and third world is just as good as in the first world. I mean China has been caught falsifying its own data on this, and India admits it cannot possibly generate any reliable numbers.palmbeacher wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 6:17 amNice try spreading misinformation. Trump must be proud of you.tegirinenashi wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:15 am
More likely that the other countries have lesser means to identify the cases, or provide fraudulent statistics. Look at the deaths per million -- US numbers are in line with EU.
So what do you mean???
imo this is the biggest problem climate change and most other current issue face, inabillity or lack of willing for honest discussion.palmbeacher wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 2:38 pmIs this what you mean?
Reporter: The U.S. has 4% of the global population and 24% of the world’s COVID-19 death, how is that a success?
McEnany: We use different numbers
Can you elaborate on this? Not sure I follow your train of thought.prop_joe wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:37 pmimo this is the biggest problem climate change and most other current issue face, inabillity or lack of willing for honest discussion.palmbeacher wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 2:38 pmIs this what you mean?
Reporter: The U.S. has 4% of the global population and 24% of the world’s COVID-19 death, how is that a success?
McEnany: We use different numbers
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