Thanks. I saw that Nasa has 3 lines, you can partly depower form of kite, but its of course quite limited. If someone will build depower Nasa whan it will be definitely best light wind kite (despite race double ul foils). As i know Peter building kite for kiting, but probably it will be not dedicated for foiling:( in my opinion for him better would be to build for foiling oriented kite as to build good for kiting kite i think is to much compeeting products in that segment.geron wrote: ↑Sun Dec 13, 2020 5:22 pmHi a99; the Nasa is not a depower kite (it does not have a bar that you can trim the back lines in relation to the front ones to depower or ¨luff" the kite) (the bridle system in that kite doesn't work that way; it is a "fixed bridle" system), to my understanding, it would be similar to having a depower kite unhooked all the time. The Race Star+ on the other hand, is a very similar design to the Peak4 only with an aspect ratio of 6 instead of 4. It is a full single skin (it doesn't have the double skin tips of the peak4); not having any areas of double skin would make it (in my opinion) potentially easier to relaunch (a la Peak4) since the tips of the peak4 always get filled easily when in the water.
All this is theory, we need a demo from Peter haha
I think this also (a 3 line depower kite, all single skin, without stiff or semi stiff battens) this would be the best possible kite to aspire for.
I think gl's description is perfect based on my experience with 3m CA_Wave and 3m Peak both picked up second hand out of curiosity. For me I am riding the Peak in 20 knots plus and the CA_Wave in 25 knots plus with windswell waves and longshore current that come with a beach break and side on winds. I can get going in 20 on the CA_Wave but can't traverse foamy whitewater. Hyperlink 5 and 7 also come to mind. The absolute low end is excellent if the water is flat and the wind is clean. Its harder to keep kite power compared to tube kites or single skin especially if waves. But if you can keep the kite moving you are riding. In these conditions I have gone back to tube kites. The strut less tubes have weight comparable to the Hyperlink and the durability to survive the washing machine. Peaks are the clear winner with drift but less risk of total loss and for me its a more optimal trade off.gl wrote: ↑Sat Dec 12, 2020 11:17 pmThe only comparison that I could do would be between my 4 metre Firefly and my 4.5 m wave. I can get going earlier with the 4.5 wave but then have to keep moving it through the window to keep power. It is harder to get going with the Firefly but once up on foil I have much more power with the kite parked. So at the lower end of the wind range I prefer the Firefly because there is much more power once up on the foil. On really gusty days I prefer the wave kite. It has greater depower for the gusts but I can still keep going in the lulls by diving the kite through the power zone. I'm not sure if that's what you were after but that's my experience with the two kites.
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