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Re: Pivot evolution

Postby BudhaNl » Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:35 am

Kitedicted wrote:
Fri Jul 10, 2020 10:32 am
BudhaNl wrote:
Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:07 am
Kitedicted wrote:
Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:57 pm
I have a -16 pivot 9m and -15 11m. I have found a deal on a -16 7m new for around 400 euro. It's without the quad tex, does the quad tex affect the performance of the pivot? Or mostly durability? I think since the 7m doesn't get used that often durability wont be an issue especially considering the price
€400 for a 2016 kite is quite a lot so I wouldn't consider that a great offer. I have flown 2015-16 Pivots in the past and think that the upgrade to quadtex & more in 2017 makes a big difference. If I then read here that the general opinion is that the 2019-20 range is again a considerable step forward, If I were you I would reconsider that 2016 kite and see whether you can get a 2019 7m, budget permitting of course.
You think 400 is expensive for a brand new 2016? Anyways I would rather upgrade my main kites first, as 7m conditions where I live is rare, perhaps 10 sessions a year. Also for reference I just sold a -16 pivot 14m for 400 used
I think it is quite expensive indeed. Here's a link to a local 'ebay' site for a brandnew 2019 6m Pivot with an asking price of €599, typically that would end up selling for 500-530 at the most.

My thoughts exactly though on upgrading your main kites first!


Edit: I'm sorry, forgot to include it: https://link.marktplaats.nl/m1573446818
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Re: Pivot evolution

Postby Kitedicted » Fri Jul 10, 2020 6:55 pm

BudhaNl wrote:
Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:35 am
Kitedicted wrote:
Fri Jul 10, 2020 10:32 am
BudhaNl wrote:
Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:07 am


€400 for a 2016 kite is quite a lot so I wouldn't consider that a great offer. I have flown 2015-16 Pivots in the past and think that the upgrade to quadtex & more in 2017 makes a big difference. If I then read here that the general opinion is that the 2019-20 range is again a considerable step forward, If I were you I would reconsider that 2016 kite and see whether you can get a 2019 7m, budget permitting of course.
You think 400 is expensive for a brand new 2016? Anyways I would rather upgrade my main kites first, as 7m conditions where I live is rare, perhaps 10 sessions a year. Also for reference I just sold a -16 pivot 14m for 400 used
I think it is quite expensive indeed. Here's a link to a local 'ebay' site for a brandnew 2019 6m Pivot with an asking price of €599, typically that would end up selling for 500-530 at the most.

My thoughts exactly though on upgrading your main kites first!
I don't see a link but as I looked a round nearly all runout pivots were sold out except a few in odd sizes like 5 and 6. Which profits the second hand market because the option is used or 2020 new. A lot of people are selling used old kites from 2013-2014 for 300 euro or so not saying it's fair but they get sold

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Re: Pivot evolution

Postby Kitedicted » Sun Oct 04, 2020 9:00 am

I'm speculating a bit about 2020 pivots on runout sales. I havw the 2015 and 2016, will there be a big difference in the kite performance and feel or should I kite my current ones to death first

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Re: Pivot evolution

Postby BillyGoatGruff » Sun Oct 04, 2020 11:53 am

Any European shops doing really good close out deals on a 9m Pivot ? I've checked the usual Dutch and German shops, the deals are not great currently (20ish% off RRP)

thanks for the replies above, Poacher - very helpful :thumb:

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Re: Pivot evolution

Postby Kitedicted » Sun Oct 04, 2020 11:55 am

A lot are sold out already, ranging from 20-30 %. I'm looking at the 8/11 kit

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Re: Pivot evolution

Postby Hugh2 » Sun Oct 04, 2020 5:44 pm

REAL in OBX have only 5, 6, 7 and 11m left from 2020.

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Re: Pivot evolution

Postby BillyGoatGruff » Sun Oct 04, 2020 7:58 pm

Seems 2020 pivot sold really well... proving tricky to find many left.

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Re: Pivot evolution

Postby kct » Mon Oct 05, 2020 5:16 pm

The bag is too small.

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Re: Pivot evolution

Postby Kitedicted » Thu Dec 31, 2020 2:27 pm

I have got my 2020 11m and also have the 2015 11m. The quadtex feels nice. Honestly though I am not feeling much difference in the kite. I haven't flown them side by side though. Perhaps the new ones are more solid in strong winds, I haven't had a chance to try that out yet. The new bag is somewhat bigger thank god but still no pocket for the bar.

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Re: Pivot evolution

Postby Hugh2 » Thu Dec 31, 2020 6:37 pm

I think my 2020 10m Pivot is superior to my 2018 9 and 11m, let alone my 2015/2016 Pivots.


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