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Re: Covid vaccine

Postby Dave_5280 » Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:33 am

Math Problem: What's The Best Strategy For COVID-19 Vaccination?

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-sho ... accination

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Re: Covid vaccine

Postby knotwindy » Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:50 am

I thought it was going to be :

If you need 70+% of the world population either vaccinated or exposed/recovered and there are almost 8 billion people in the world and they are vaccinating 20 million per month how long will it take until we don’t have to wear masks and close most businesses? 🤔

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Re: Covid vaccine

Postby Kamikuza » Tue Jan 12, 2021 7:37 am

knotwindy wrote:
Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:50 am
I thought it was going to be :

If you need 70+% of the world population either vaccinated or exposed/recovered and there are almost 8 billion people in the world and they are vaccinating 20 million per month how long will it take until we don’t have to wear masks and close most businesses? 🤔
Herd immunity is achieved when transmission rates drop below 1 -- whatever % of the population that may be.

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Re: Covid vaccine

Postby Havre » Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:23 am

knotwindy wrote:
Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:50 am
I thought it was going to be :

If you need 70+% of the world population either vaccinated or exposed/recovered and there are almost 8 billion people in the world and they are vaccinating 20 million per month how long will it take until we don’t have to wear masks and close most businesses? 🤔
Clearly WHO are not especially good with their calculators, but back in October they estimated that 10% had already had it.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/06/heal ... index.html

Right now this seems to be a PCR-driven pandemic more than anything else. Why did it "disappear" in the spring 2020 (Northern hemisphere)? I would expect the same thing to happen again vaccine or no vaccine (not that I know of course).

The rest depends more on how the people behave. Every politician has an incentive at the moment to push masks. Why wouldn't you wear a mask? It apparently "costs you nothing" and it "saves lives" so.... in theory if a politician says we can now loosens the mask mandates around and ONE person dies is that politician responsible? The important thing here is the illusion of action.

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Re: Covid vaccine

Postby Dave_5280 » Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:07 am

Los Angeles students required to get COVID-19 vaccine (once available) before return to school

https://www.foxnews.com/health/los-ang ... -to-school

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Re: Covid vaccine

Postby Havre » Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:12 am

That is insane. Especially since no-one can say for sure that the vaccine stops spread. And that as far as I know no vaccine has been tested on children aged 17 or lower?

Will be interesting to see if this will be considered legal. God help us if it is. Civil war incoming.

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Re: Covid vaccine

Postby Dave_5280 » Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:03 pm

Pfizer will be coming out with test data down to age 12.

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Re: Covid vaccine

Postby Havre » Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:20 pm

Dave_5280 wrote:
Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:03 pm
Pfizer will be coming out with test data down to age 12.
But until then it would be rather odd suggesting they should be mandatory?

I didn't even know they had a trial with people under 18? That wasn't mentioned in the initial documentation? Or have I missed something?

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Re: Covid vaccine

Postby Dave_5280 » Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:15 pm

Pfizer and Moderna are doing trials with children down to age 12. Pfizer was approved down to 16.

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Re: Covid vaccine

Postby Dave_5280 » Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:19 pm

Another vaccine phase 3 trial, this time for Novavax, is open if anyone wants to try it:

https://www.novavax.com/PREVENT-19


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