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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021

Postby Wazza Foil » Sun Jan 10, 2021 6:19 am

For Windwing I now only use 790 and 400 stab works for me.

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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021

Postby Wazza Foil » Sun Jan 10, 2021 6:24 am

For Windwing I now only use 790 and 400 stab works for me.
However the 950 may be the one, time will tell.

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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021

Postby Frankieboy » Sun Jan 10, 2021 12:19 pm

Wazza Foil wrote:
Sun Jan 10, 2021 6:19 am
For Windwing I now only use 790 and 400 stab works for me.
so it fits the 710 as the 425 right?

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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021

Postby grigorib » Sun Jan 10, 2021 4:27 pm

Kite stabilizers have slightly different upper surface curve where they mount to the fuselage compared to surf stabilizers, but they roughly fit 749/710 fuselages
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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021

Postby grigorib » Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:43 am

New logos, same sizes
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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021

Postby grigorib » Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:59 pm

Not sure if anyone noticed different finish on fuselages. Some fuselages are anodized over “right off the CNC” - somewhat shiny, but with rougher edges between surfaces and traces of a mill at curvy parts.

Other (I’ve got two into my hands so far) seem to be pre-sanded before getting anodized and feature smooth edges and lengthwise sanding marks under the black.

I noticed that only on 647 fuselages and never saw a smooth surf one.

Any clues about background on this?

Here pics of the “smooth one”
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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021

Postby grigorib » Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:36 am

Says here it’s 1600 sq.cm and looking at aspect ratio it would be a wing completely killing 790 and probably 1100 besides already dead 873
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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021

Postby grigorib » Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:45 am

Some 2021 updates

- it looks like 325 stabilizer is gone
- 558,550,718,720,873 wings are gone
- alu setup is gone.
- 590/330 only exist in youth version and I think it’s a mistake. 671/480 wings with 421/400 stabilizers would have been so much better set

it seems the 421 is not a part of any set and I assume it’ll be next goner along with 790.
The 800 is not a part of any set either and I’d say 800-671-480 would make a great freerace line which Moses should sell as a set
I have no idea what pushes Moses to keep making 483 while they can use shimmed 450 instead to completely replace the dagger.

The ice has started moving

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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021

Postby alowishus » Mon Jan 18, 2021 5:23 am

grigorib wrote:
Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:45 am
- 590/330 only exist in youth version and I think it’s a mistake.
Looks like the old 590/330. I hope old bastards can still buy the youth version!

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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021

Postby grigorib » Mon Jan 18, 2021 5:47 pm

One thing Moses should have created, after all it’s one thing I wanted for years and I tried to reach out directly to both Slingshot and Moses, but they still don’t have it - wing with more arrowheaded LE about ~900 sq.cm area mountable onto kite fuselage. It doesn’t need to be shovel shaped - higher aspects proven to work well, but there’s space to be added easily to center chord in front of fuselage and behind trailing edge to make the wing wider than 132mm

Fortunately the competition is catching up and I’m going to have some cool new wings to demo
It’s going to be a good year!


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