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Eleveight Introduces Dynea Tex

Postby Toby » Thu Dec 01, 2022 11:51 am

Eleveight News:

Dynea Tex


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CUTTING EDGE FABRIC FOR SUPERCHARGED PERFORMANCE
Dynea Tex is a highly specialised fabric engineered without compromise. While 32 times stronger than traditional Dacron, it’s also 30% lighter, stiffer and more precise than other normal materials used in inflatable kites.

Utilising the strength of Dyneema kite lines, we’ve taken the same Ultra PE Fibers and woven them into a lightweight fabric to give the optimum balance between responsiveness and long-term performance.

50% LESS ELONGATION
compared to standard material

30% LIGHTER & 32 TIMES STRONGER
than traditional Dacron and other normal inflatable material

HIGHER RESISTANCE TO UV

2X LIGHTER
than Carbon Fiber

80% BETTER RECOVERY OF MATERIAL
and significant increase of form stability under load


https://www.eleveightkites.com/dyneatex






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Re: Eleveight Introduces Dynea Tex

Postby Baptiste_FR » Thu Dec 01, 2022 12:16 pm

It is the first "new generation" kite that does not cost a kidney.
The 12m² RS+ is 1929 € where the 13m² Juice D-Lab is 2999 € and the 12m² Flite is 3349 €.
I have no information for the Reach N-Weave.
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Re: Eleveight Introduces Dynea Tex

Postby leeuwen » Thu Dec 01, 2022 1:04 pm

Based on the claimed weight savings I would guess they won't be in the same league as Aluula Gold.
More similar to SLS and would not be surprised the similarly priced HL kites from OR are actually lighter.

Of course there is more then just weight to the material and I really hope they can put out a great product forcing some downward pressure on price level. I totally agree the full Aluula price level is getting out of control although they supposed to be working on a slightly heaver, cheaper Aluula fabric.

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Re: Eleveight Introduces Dynea Tex

Postby Baptiste_FR » Thu Dec 01, 2022 2:36 pm

Dyneatex, Aluula, N-Weave and Hookipa are all based on the same technology (using UHMWPE), but the recipe is different : coating and fiber application. So, for the moment Aluula is the lightest (85 g/m²) where Dyneatex and Hookipa are at 120 g/m².
SLS and N-Dure are based on Dacron (lighter and stiffer, but still Dacron) and weight at 145 g/m² (where traditional Dacron is 170 g/m²).
I hope more brands offer reasonable price for these new kites (North and Cabrinha, I'm counting on you !!!).
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Re: Eleveight Introduces Dynea Tex

Postby Greenturtle » Thu Dec 01, 2022 3:26 pm

Not singling out eleveight here, great brand, and im sure a great product with this. But my general feeling is that premium prices for these amounts of weight savings is so annoying. You can save weight simply by using thinner bladders and single ripstop and less bs reinforcing. I don’t need crazy durability, just performance in the air.

What I want to see is a kite that is significantly lighter and also significantly cheaper than the standard line.

Then you will have my attention, and likely the attention of many others.

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Re: Eleveight Introduces Dynea Tex

Postby a99 » Thu Dec 01, 2022 3:45 pm

Greenturtle wrote:
Thu Dec 01, 2022 3:26 pm
Not singling out eleveight here, great brand, and im sure a great product with this. But my general feeling is that premium prices for these amounts of weight savings is so annoying. You can save weight simply by using thinner bladders and single ripstop and less bs reinforcing. I don’t need crazy durability, just performance in the air.
What I want to see is a kite that is significantly lighter and also significantly cheaper than the standard line.
Then you will have my attention, and likely the attention of many others.
Fully agree, these main premium companies can do special super Light releases dedicated for professionals and with notice that No long durability, created for KOTA performance :) I think they will sell it like hotdogs :)

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Re: Eleveight Introduces Dynea Tex

Postby StellaBlu » Thu Dec 01, 2022 4:57 pm

Baptiste_FR wrote:
Thu Dec 01, 2022 2:36 pm
I hope more brands offer reasonable price for these new kites (North and Cabrinha, I'm counting on you !!!).
Definitely a new structural material coming from Cabrinha in 2023. I know its coming to wings, not sure whether it will be incorporated into kites though. Allows for smaller diameter, stiffer, lighter frame. I assume its similar to some of these other fabrics.

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Re: Eleveight Introduces Dynea Tex

Postby jakemoore » Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:30 pm

Greenturtle wrote:
Thu Dec 01, 2022 3:26 pm
But my general feeling is that premium prices for these amounts of weight savings is so annoying.

....

What I want to see is a kite that is significantly lighter and also significantly cheaper than the standard line.
Price differences are not so different than component groups for bicycles. People spend a lot to save just a little weight. Somewhere in the equation people find the best value for them. In the end even average stuff gets better even though the R&D focuses on premium first.

....

And for pure weight saving nothing beats the single skins at any price.

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Re: Eleveight Introduces Dynea Tex

Postby knotwindy » Thu Dec 01, 2022 7:44 pm

jakemoore wrote:
Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:30 pm
Greenturtle wrote:
Thu Dec 01, 2022 3:26 pm
But my general feeling is that premium prices for these amounts of weight savings is so annoying.

....

What I want to see is a kite that is significantly lighter and also significantly cheaper than the standard line.
Price differences are not so different than component groups for bicycles. People spend a lot to save just a little weight. Somewhere in the equation people find the best value for them. In the end even average stuff gets better even though the R&D focuses on premium first.



And for pure weight saving nothing beats the single skins at any price.
Sure, it’s seems the same for most things,
Getting from average to good is easy & cheap
Getting from good to great is harder & more expensive
Getting from great to exceptional is even harder & more expensive yet.
The last 5% cost more than the first 95%.
With boats, cars, planes, etc the advice is
If you want to go fast it’ll cost you.
and not just money!
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Re: Eleveight Introduces Dynea Tex

Postby SolarSet » Thu Dec 01, 2022 8:51 pm

Aluula is not only saving weight of kite but also making kite frame much stiffer, faster more responsive kite, similar to DT SLS, these materials are not only about saving some weight so kite doesn’t fall out of sky


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