3D printer can make it happen?
I had a Microloop made to fit the new QR's. Costs a bit, but then you are fine for future.
This raises some questions I've always had. Does anyone know how intellectual property works in the world of watersports where designers often switch companies? When Pat Goodman designs something like say the Orbit, the name obviously belongs to North. What about the design? As far as I know, it's not patented. So then when Pat goes back to Cabrinha, can he use the exact same design? Or does he have to modify it to be sufficiently different from a previous design at a different company? The new MotoX sounds a LOT like the Reach - light bar pressure, loopable 12 m, quick turning, does everything well, etc.pelealexandru wrote: ↑Thu Jan 26, 2023 2:09 pmI'm guessing Pat Goodman opened this Orbit project, File > Save as, typed Orbit and bam, but we'll see
So what you are thinking of is:lifeinthehood wrote: ↑Thu Jan 26, 2023 3:32 pmCome to think of it, what's to stop one company from just flat out copying the design of another company? I don't imagine it's that difficult for someone who wants to start a company to simply digitize a design and essentially create a carbon copy. Kite design all seems to have been converging in the last 10 years anyways.pelealexandru wrote: ↑Thu Jan 26, 2023 2:09 pmI'm guessing Pat Goodman opened this Orbit project, File > Save as, typed Orbit and bam, but we'll see
The main crux of my post wasn't really about someone starting from scratch. I'm not at all dismissing the difficulty of the endeavor of starting from scratch. What I'm actually interested/curious about is, how kite industry operates when there doesn't seem to be a lot of patent protection on kite design. How much do kite designers borrow from one another? If one already has experience working with these materials, then I assume if one were given a kite and could take ALL of the measurements of a kite, you could simply build one based off one's experience of how a kite is put together. I would imagine that one could get close enough to at least have a starting point to fine tune it.decay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 26, 2023 5:47 pmSo what you are thinking of is:lifeinthehood wrote: ↑Thu Jan 26, 2023 3:32 pmCome to think of it, what's to stop one company from just flat out copying the design of another company? I don't imagine it's that difficult for someone who wants to start a company to simply digitize a design and essentially create a carbon copy. Kite design all seems to have been converging in the last 10 years anyways.pelealexandru wrote: ↑Thu Jan 26, 2023 2:09 pmI'm guessing Pat Goodman opened this Orbit project, File > Save as, typed Orbit and bam, but we'll see
Unstitch/unglue all the panels
Scan/digitize
Take those files and start a kite company
Easy to talk about, almost impossible to implement to any level of usability. The errors involved would blow out very very quickly to way beyond what would make the kite fly nothing like the original.
The biggest issue is however, without the 'source code' (SurfPlan .SLE file or KaroroCAD .KITE file) the wing you get from the process is an orphan - even if you did manage to get it to fly it is one size only, and there is no easy way to change or improve it. Changes, improvements, tuning - that is what keeps your brand going and up to speed year after year.
Scaling sizes alone would be a nightmare - much beyond 1 to 2m in canopy size and whole bunch of stuff in non-linear in nature - take the 9m scan you actual got to fly from the process above and scale to 12m - it is now a complete basket case (let alone the headache of hours of work to manually adjust seam allowances on EVERY SINGLE PANEL...)
For all the work involved and the limited chance of success its actually easy to design new kites from scratch or pay one of the contract designers out there for their services.
Cheers
DK