[img]Apparently, anyone can get away with anything & look like a hero if you use the word 'safety' enough.
yeah i remember the word safety being spoken about quite a bit during my course...shame it was barely put into practice...[/img]
Well,abel wrote:C'mon guys !!!
SAFETY is not a bad word. It shouldn't be missused though.
If a kid(or anbody) is standing between the lines, are you going to shut up when you see that a kiter is going to launch anyway?
Aren't you goint to tell your student about this porblem and similar ones?
If you see a newbee opening a 16mts kite in >20knts are you going to let him blow to hell? or are you going to kindly assist and warn him?
If you don't want to call this trivial safety issues, OK don't, but most probably you are going to address them somehow.
The problem is that what seems trivial and common sense for experienced kiters, it is not obvious for newbies.
Mabe we shouldn't abuse the use of the word or it's concept to avoid hypocrite or cinical references to it by people with less awarness.
We all know that it might be a matter of banning, cutted fingers/ears, stiches on the head and some times worse. I saw these all.
Does anyone dissagree that it is reasonable to refer to safety seriously in a proportional and balanced way?
So what's the fuzz about the word?
Your are right, any (normal/sociable) rider who launches a kite is an instructor...like it or not, that is the way it is. This is one of many reasons why we put the K.I.T.E.S. system on DVD. As the kite lands, the questions come..."how much is that...where can I get one..."abel wrote:C'mon guys !!!
SAFETY is not a bad word. It shouldn't be missused though.
If a kid(or anbody) is standing between the lines, are you going to shut up when you see that a kiter is going to launch anyway?
Aren't you goint to tell your student about this porblem and similar ones?
If you see a newbee opening a 16mts kite in >20knts are you going to let him blow to hell? or are you going to kindly assist and warn him?
If you don't want to call this trivial safety issues, OK don't, but most probably you are going to address them somehow.
The problem is that what seems trivial and common sense for experienced kiters, it is not obvious for newbies.
Mabe we shouldn't abuse the use of the word or it's concept to avoid hypocrite or cinical references to it by people with less awarness.
We all know that it might be a matter of banning, cutted fingers/ears, stiches on the head and some times worse. I saw these all.
Does anyone dissagree that it is reasonable to refer to safety seriously in a proportional and balanced way?
So what's the fuzz about the word?
You used the word "safety" once in your compulsive posting affliction above and you look like a complete idiot - still!sid5150 wrote:So to sum all of that up:
IKO certification doesn't mean you'll be safe, or even learn how to kiteboard. But instructors, stores, and especially train the trainer schools will have an opportunity to fleece the student.
Store instructors - What a great way to ensure that you get first dibs on the nooB's wallet. Brilliant.
Apparently, anyone can get away with anything & look like a hero if you use the word 'safety' enough.
Sid sends
able,abel wrote:Hi Fo,
It seems that I always agree with you about the facts. This sport is dangerous. It's about the ODDS that I kind'a have a different approach.
Isn't being a live dangerous? (hey you might get doomed any moment by a car accident, a terrorist attack, a hart attack, a natural disaster....)
If an earthqake occurs in a place where the buidings are not designed to stand a hard shake, then you have a lot of casualties. If they are well designed then the lower the casualties. Of course that given a hard enough strike, nature will beat us anyhow. But I'm talking about the ODDS.
Don't you agree with me that we CAN influence and get better probabilities to get through a bad situation that WILL happen (remember Murphy ?)
You see.. when you drive, you try to be carefull as much as you can and just in case you use the belt. Statistically it saved more lives than it took (as we all know that belts have also darwbacks).
I would put a bit off effort trying to enhance my odds without getting to the point of using a metal-reinforced umbrella against meteorites when I walk on the street
It is a matter of proportion and reasonable limits.
Do you really think that the helmet is way out of realistic limits?
Cheeres
Steve - You are SOOOooooo close to forming a genuine, fact based arguement. Keep trying, because I *KNOW* you can do it!!!kitepower wrote: You used the word "safety" once in your compulsive posting affliction above and you look like a complete idiot - still!