Contact   Imprint   Advertising   Guidelines

Big kite question

A forum dedicated to Hydrofoil riders
User avatar
Kamikuza
Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 6329
Joined: Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:49 am
Local Beach: Sabae Beach
Favorite Beaches: Ol' Stinky
Gear: This, that, the other
Has thanked: 78 times
Been thanked: 61 times

Big kite question

Postby Kamikuza » Sat Jan 02, 2016 8:49 am

I got myself a LF Fun Foil to learn on and beat up... the foil or myself, I don't know who'll get thrashed the most yet.

Plan on starting out in lighting wind, as getting out from the beach into deep water is a major effort.

For kites, I have Crossbow 16, Flite 17.5 (first gen, more Razor-esque), and later I think Speed3 15 or 21 if I get the hang of it/desperate.

Question: slow-turning Crossbow will be good or zippy, faster-turning Flite is better?

Wielandt
Rare Poster
Posts: 44
Joined: Sat May 24, 2014 3:33 pm
Kiting since: 2013
Local Beach: Denmark
Favorite Beaches: Holten
Farø
Style: HF,
Gear: Naish Draft, Cabrinha Apollo, Airush Ultra, Storm Voyager, Gong strutless
LFSolo
Moses HF.
Brand Affiliation: None
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 1 time

Re: Big kite question

Postby Wielandt » Sat Jan 02, 2016 10:17 am

Hi

I think you are planning way to big !

Although I have both 14m and 17m Kites I never use more than 12m on my foilboard. When wind is low, 8 knots, I use my 12 m Solo with 28-30m lines. It works perfect for a 80 kg guy like me.

Good luck and happy foiling

User avatar
Kamikuza
Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 6329
Joined: Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:49 am
Local Beach: Sabae Beach
Favorite Beaches: Ol' Stinky
Gear: This, that, the other
Has thanked: 78 times
Been thanked: 61 times

Re: Big kite question

Postby Kamikuza » Sat Jan 02, 2016 10:45 am

... I'm not 80kg tho :)

windmaker
Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 1635
Joined: Sun Jun 15, 2003 8:48 am
Kiting since: 1999
Local Beach: .
Style: Strapless surf and foil
Gear: F-One & Aeros kites/ HB surf/ Taaroa foil/ Manera
Has thanked: 14 times
Been thanked: 28 times
Contact:

Re: Big kite question

Postby windmaker » Sat Jan 02, 2016 12:00 pm

For your first steps you need to use the same size or slightly smaller size kite than what you would be using on surfboard. As you progress kites will get smaller and smaller :D

I weigh 66kg and my biggest kite is a 10m F-one Diablo foil kite and I am up and going with 6 knots, 10knots and I am up and going with an 8m Bandit inflatable (standard lines)


What type of kite you use (fast /slow) is down to personal taste.

BraCuru
Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 946
Joined: Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:00 pm
Kiting since: 2002
Local Beach: Polish Baltic Coast
Favorite Beaches: Polish Baltic Beach
Style: foilboarding
Gear: Cabrinha Apollo Kites, Moses Hydrofoil, BraCuru Boards, 24Surf.pl
Brand Affiliation: Moses HF, Cabrinha
Has thanked: 12 times
Been thanked: 18 times
Contact:

Re: Big kite question

Postby BraCuru » Sat Jan 02, 2016 2:53 pm

Kamikuza wrote:Question: slow-turning Crossbow will be good or zippy, faster-turning Flite is better?
Forget about Crossbow!
It is too heavy (especially the one with 7 struts).
It will fall down in lulls easier than any new large light wind kite.
Speed of kite is not so important as most think. It helps but a slow kite in hands of advice rider might work well too.
If you want to stay with an inflatable kite in light winds (save mode) then I would recommend to take Velocity 14m and use it with 7-10m extension lines in winds below 8kts.
This is what works perfect for me. Velocity with a racing bar is the best inflatable kite for foiling I had in my hands so far.

I found that the Edge performs a bit better than Velocity but once in the water in light winds might be a nightmare to relaunch it.

User avatar
Peter_Frank
Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 9511
Joined: Wed Oct 16, 2002 1:00 am
Kiting since: 0
Brand Affiliation: None
Location: Denmark
Has thanked: 142 times
Been thanked: 150 times

Re: Big kite question

Postby Peter_Frank » Sat Jan 02, 2016 5:36 pm

As you ar not such a wimp in size Kami, it is fine to use the big ones as your lightwind weapons (you just need more wind than we do).

I dont know the Flite, but would definitely choose that one, as the Crossbow, if just remotely like the one I tried years ago, has grunt like no other kite (and not fast) -it just pulls and pulls.

Which is the last you want for foiling - you want a kite you can turn and dive or loop to get up foiling, and then you just want a kite with good depower and fast turning :thumb:

8) PF

User avatar
Kamikuza
Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 6329
Joined: Fri Jan 09, 2009 4:49 am
Local Beach: Sabae Beach
Favorite Beaches: Ol' Stinky
Gear: This, that, the other
Has thanked: 78 times
Been thanked: 61 times

Re: Big kite question

Postby Kamikuza » Sun Jan 03, 2016 2:44 am

BraCuru wrote: Forget about Crossbow!
It is too heavy (especially the one with 7 struts).
Also not an option, due to budget :( yes, all 7-stutters too...

Goal is to get semi-competent then switch to my Speed3s for all-foil fun :D but until then I don't want to risk a swim in with foil and not-so-buoyant board.
Peter_Frank wrote:As you ar not such a wimp in size Kami, it is fine to use the big ones as your lightwind weapons (you just need more wind than we do).

I dont know the Flite, but would definitely choose that one, as the Crossbow, if just remotely like the one I tried years ago, has grunt like no other kite (and not fast) -it just pulls and pulls.

Which is the last you want for foiling - you want a kite you can turn and dive or loop to get up foiling, and then you just want a kite with good depower and fast turning :thumb:

8) PF
That's the nicest way anyone has put it :lol:

Mmm, I think the Flite is more insistent when powered, as it sits deeper in the window. I find the Xbows to depower fine but slow to loop, and prone to choke at the bottom if the wind is light. I've been running the 10m on the "B" setting... but don't notice any difference :D

Well, I guess the only solution is to suck it and see. Then upgrade eventually!

User avatar
irwe
Frequent Poster
Posts: 499
Joined: Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:13 am
Kiting since: 2003
Local Beach: Keswick
Favorite Beaches: Choche
South Padre Island
Silver Rock
Bahia Salinas
Style: Allaround
Gear: Ocean Rodeo
Slingshot
Spleen
Axis
Best
Shinn
TKF
ConceptAir
Zeeko
Brand Affiliation: None
Has thanked: 5 times
Been thanked: 6 times

Re: Big kite question

Postby irwe » Sun Jan 03, 2016 2:54 pm

If you are beginning I would suggest not going out on light days (<12 kts). I started out in 12 - 15 kts on 10 -12 m kites (72 kg). The biggest problem I found was keeping the kite in the air while I was setting up to start if the wind was too light (<10 kts).
Quick tips

Learn to body drag with the board.
27 m line length
Keep pressure on your front foot toe and just ride with the board in the water for a while.
Just do small runs and stay close to your launch spot.

Lots of video's online for more tips.


Return to “Hydrofoil”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Foil, francis luengo and 6 guests