Which one turns faster?
Which one would be the better choice for riding waves strapless cross/off?
Airush Union vs. Ultra
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Re: Airush Union vs. Ultra
Hey Aeberl,
What size are you looking at? IMO I really liked the Ultra response in the larger sizes or riding underpowered. I would say it turns faster in low-end conditions better than a larger Union simply because of the weight difference. For smaller size where you are riding lit - I like the Union as it is a bit more versatile in overpower conditions to ride between Wave and Twintip/jumping.
If only wave riding, Have you considered the Airush Wave?
I would highly recommend this kite if you are focused on fast turning and strapless wave riding.
I have only fantastic sessions riding that kite in waves especially if this is your primary focus.
What size are you looking at? IMO I really liked the Ultra response in the larger sizes or riding underpowered. I would say it turns faster in low-end conditions better than a larger Union simply because of the weight difference. For smaller size where you are riding lit - I like the Union as it is a bit more versatile in overpower conditions to ride between Wave and Twintip/jumping.
If only wave riding, Have you considered the Airush Wave?
I would highly recommend this kite if you are focused on fast turning and strapless wave riding.
I have only fantastic sessions riding that kite in waves especially if this is your primary focus.
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Re: Airush Union vs. Ultra
I am currently riding BRM 9m C2 and are lookong for a kite for low wind condictions in waves (10 to 16 knots). I am not sure the Airush Wave will give me agility and quick response in that wind range.
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Re: Airush Union vs. Ultra
I'm looking to put together an airush quiver 7-9 wave and 12 ultra. Strapless wave riding is my primary focus ( in life 
) I feel like for wave riding in smaller sizes and stronger winds the wave would beat the ultra in fast turning and responsiveness. But in lighter winds the ultra would win due to the excellent drift and light weight
) I feel like for wave riding in smaller sizes and stronger winds the wave would beat the ultra in fast turning and responsiveness. But in lighter winds the ultra would win due to the excellent drift and light weight-
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Re: Airush Union vs. Ultra
Spot on. I really like the Ultra but if you live in West Oz, the 7-9 Wave combo is magical for those green arrow days.Seabizzle wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:12 amI'm looking to put together an airush quiver 7-9 wave and 12 ultra. Strapless wave riding is my primary focus ( in life
I would pick the 12m Ultra over the 12m Wave for sure in the low-end days.
The 12m Wave is great, but then they came out with the 12 Ultra and I tried it. I don't see myself riding multi strut kites above a 10m anymore.
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Re: Airush Union vs. Ultra
My current set up is 7 and 9 Wave, but looking to add a lighter wind kite option. I only ride surfboard, but not always wave riding.
Was going to order a 12M wave, but locals are telling me utlra is a better choice. But what is interesting is guys around here are choosing a 9M ultra to replace a 12M wave!
I have a though time believing a 9M ultra can replace a 12M kite even if it's a wave kite.
Anyone have thoughts on this?
Was going to order a 12M wave, but locals are telling me utlra is a better choice. But what is interesting is guys around here are choosing a 9M ultra to replace a 12M wave!
I have a though time believing a 9M ultra can replace a 12M kite even if it's a wave kite.
Anyone have thoughts on this?
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Re: Airush Union vs. Ultra
I would only consider dropping the 12m and getting a 9m Ultra if I owned a foilboard.nicor wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:47 pmMy current set up is 7 and 9 Wave, but looking to add a lighter wind kite option. I only ride surfboard, but not always wave riding.
Was going to order a 12M wave, but locals are telling me utlra is a better choice. But what is interesting is guys around here are choosing a 9M ultra to replace a 12M wave!
I have a though time believing a 9M ultra can replace a 12M kite even if it's a wave kite.
Anyone have thoughts on this?
Really tough to say what the guys around your end are trying to do without knowing what they have in terms of boards, weight, conditions etc.
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Re: Airush Union vs. Ultra
They are good kiters for sure, and mostly wave riding. Boards we ride are mostly noesless/parallel rails (vaders,vanguard ...etc), so they work quite well in light winds with a quad set up. I Don't think we are talking ultra light wind conditions, but probably more like 12 knots and up.MrWolf wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:25 pmI would only consider dropping the 12m and getting a 9m Ultra if I owned a foilboard.nicor wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:47 pmMy current set up is 7 and 9 Wave, but looking to add a lighter wind kite option. I only ride surfboard, but not always wave riding.
Was going to order a 12M wave, but locals are telling me utlra is a better choice. But what is interesting is guys around here are choosing a 9M ultra to replace a 12M wave!
I have a though time believing a 9M ultra can replace a 12M kite even if it's a wave kite.
Anyone have thoughts on this?
Really tough to say what the guys around your end are trying to do without knowing what they have in terms of boards, weight, conditions etc.
What I'm hearing is that the kite is fast and can be worked to generate the power with a board that is not too power hungry. The idea is when you're on the wave the kite drifts amazing in light wind and can be moved around with little wind velocity. This options would not work for surfboard freestyle in lighter conditions though, just surfing and cruising around I guess.
Anyways, I'm really not sure on this one, but I have heard from a number of kiters that the 9M ulta would be preferred to the 12M wave.