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Re: What HD Waterprof Camera is better?

Postby RickI » Thu Dec 17, 2009 3:44 am

Some of us go underwater at times as well as shooting in air. Been taking the GoPro WIDE under for some months with interesting results. Just took the GoPro HD, actually two of them, into about a fifty shark feeding behavior last weekend. The results are pretty good, I'm excited and looking forward to shooting more. Did my first HD edit using iMovie on a Mac with surprisingly few problems, so far.

You can check out the initial video short (960p), (the full length clip is still in processing) at:


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Re: What HD Waterprof Camera is better?

Postby harviento » Fri Dec 18, 2009 1:52 am

Gustas wrote:I have pentax W80 and I am very disappointed.

The HD video 1280, 30fps max duration is 10 min, with no interval or delayed start.

And picture quality is very average of below average in my opinion, but of course you can get lucky....
Yes, the Pentax W80 can only record a maximum 4GB file, so that gives a time limit of 11:01 per video take in full resolution 1280/30fps. You can record more if you have a larger card, but you will need to get the camera in your hands and press record again to start recording another 4GB file as a second take. You can get 21:50 per take if you switch to 1280/15fps. And you can get 32:07 if you switch to non-HD 640/30fps. Bummer for a kite cam.

As far as the picture quality goes, even at the maximum 1280/30 setting, it does not compare to the GoPro HD. I am sure we will soon start seeing footage from the GoProHD on broadcast television to supplement sports coverage and documentary films, but no network would ever accept footage from the Pentax. It is a YouTube-only camera. It's a fun toy, but the GoProHD is on another level-truly incredible for the price. The interface for the GoPro sucks though. It's like working with some homemade computer rather than a fully developed customer-friendly device. So it's not so easy to make adjustments if you don't have the manual with you. But in reality, once you make the proper adjustments, you can just leave it alone for all of your future shooting, so this isn't much of an issue. The various mounts are great too.

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Re: What HD Waterprof Camera is better?

Postby eytan » Sun Dec 20, 2009 2:38 pm

I have trouble processing the mp4 file in premier cs4
I only get the sound. Any idea how to solve this ?

here some footage with the hd on helmet and gopro on board.

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Re: What HD Waterprof Camera is better?

Postby nils » Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:39 am

Hey,

I am also looking for a new helmet camera, but it seems difficult to decide which one to get. I found this test on a german website about helmet cameras - http://www.sport2.de/snowboard/newsarch ... atest.html. For those you speak german, this could be some interesting information. :thumb:

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Re: What HD Waterprof Camera is better?

Postby hapa13 » Sat Nov 13, 2010 7:32 pm

eytan - Editing GoPro footage in anything other than imovie is a pain. You need to go and convert each clip to a format which is useable by real NLE programs. Very time consuming but necessary to edit in Final Cut, Premier Pro, etc. The support section on GoPro's page gives you the info to get started.......
http://www.goprocamera.com/tips/fcp.php

And to those looking at various cam's for shooting high action stuff like kiting, surfing, etc. Try getting a cam that shoots at 60fps (or higher). This will make for much smoother looking footage, especially if you plan on slowing certain shots down. 30fps just looks choppy as all hell.

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Re: What HD Waterprof Camera is better?

Postby Rasmuskk » Sun Nov 14, 2010 4:32 pm

Here is some info on different waterproof cameras; http://kite-skills.com/index.php?option ... =30&id=144

Here is some info on different ways to mount your camera when kiteboarding
http://kite-skills.com/index.php?option ... &Itemid=63

I personally like my Panasonic Lumix DMC-FT2 though it only shoots 720P

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Re: What HD Waterprof Camera is better?

Postby KiteSplosh » Tue Nov 16, 2010 9:03 am

I am looking around for an HD camera as well. From my research it seems like alot of professionals are using GoPro for commercial television applications (Top Gear, Discovery, Fuel TV, National Geographic). They were even used in the Chilean mine rescue

Can't find any sites about TV broadcasters using pentax (not that I have any thing against pentax - my old W90 did the trick). Verdict: I've got the GoPro on my Xmas list - if its good enough for Jeremy Clarkson, its good enough for me.

http://www.prokit.co.uk/index.php?view= ... -800047746

http://www.prokit.co.uk/index.php?view= ... -800158390

http://www.topgear.com/uk/james-may/jam ... 2010-10-06

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/GoPro-Wel ... l?x=0&.v=1

http://reviews.cnet.com/digital-cameras ... entBody;1n

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Re: What HD Waterprof Camera is better?

Postby Peter_Frank » Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:09 am

You can not compare these two.

Go Pro is a specific ultra wide angle camera, the Pentax Wxx's are with 5X optical zoom, ranging from normal wide angle.

Very different usages :naughty:


I am looking for something to replace my W60 (worn after 2 years of heavy use, so lens is scratched), but impossible to find anything that can match it IMO - have been searching all new models too, but nothing is even close. apart from the Casio EX-G1...

(and no, both the W80 and W90 are very bad, compared, regarding picture/video quality and video length, and not useable)

Does anyone know if there are W60's on stock somewhere ?

- Peter

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Re: What HD Waterprof Camera is better?

Postby eytan » Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:15 pm

Hi peter

for video go for the panasonic ts2 .
HD and unlimited time.
http://www.digitalcamerareview.com/defa ... +lumix+ts2

but dosent have the interval shoting :(

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Re: What HD Waterprof Camera is better?

Postby Peter_Frank » Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:10 pm

eytan wrote:Hi peter

for video go for the panasonic ts2 .
HD and unlimited time.
http://www.digitalcamerareview.com/defa ... +lumix+ts2

but dosent have the interval shoting :(
You are quite right, a good contender - and the TS2 has good video quality.
A bit better than the W60 I think, although same 1280x720 and not full HD.

So the TS2 is a good/better match regarding video, and an awesome allround camera :thumb:

I have been keen on that one, but as you said - it lacks the interval shooting that the W60 and EX-G1 has, so if the video is not that far apart, I might want to keep a W60 and wait for something better to come one day (I hope...) :roll:

i forgot - do the TS2 have manual focus in video mode ?
The Pentax has, and it is VERY important, if you want to shoot videopics in low light :D
(have forgot to set it to manual a few times - and it ruined most of the pictures from video :x )

If not, that was the reason I dropped the TS2 idea (can not remember really)

- Peter


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