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Re: Chicken Loop Bye Bye?

Postby Herman » Sun May 22, 2022 8:20 pm

Some dynabar models came with a qr pin for the rope runner. Pin held in with bungee and attached to a pull ball by dyneema. Have one but never released it under load. Probably similar standard as the old chicken loops with release pins. Just nice to have the option, and it allows for a splice with full length bury for redundancy as the runner.

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Re: Chicken Loop Bye Bye?

Postby Pokitren » Mon May 23, 2022 8:22 am

merl wrote:
Thu Apr 07, 2022 6:49 am
Don't trust them. They can hook up at the tip where they open. This happens only once the hinge starts to get loose and have a bit of play. Hard to explain without pictures. At the very least they need to be carefully maintained by filing a critical point. But honestly I would not recommend them for regular use if under load.


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Found this, 150kg load with a breaking load of 800 kgs. Might order one and do a test, definitely cheap enough
https://www.theboatwarehouse.com.au/rig ... -316-grade/
Do they need to be filed? Oh my God, I wanted to buy one of these.
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Re: Chicken Loop Bye Bye?

Postby daspi » Mon May 30, 2022 5:17 pm

I'm considering getting a simple carbon tube and drill my own center hole. Nothing new, many have done this I'm sure. Now how do you fill or build up the center hole so it is nice and smooth for the rope to run through? I would appreciate some guidance.

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Re: Chicken Loop Bye Bye?

Postby ronnie » Mon May 30, 2022 6:49 pm

iriejohn wrote:
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jumptheshark wrote:
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Lets be clear, the primary release in the BRM system is a push. 99% of the time that is all that is required. The same movement we have all grown accustomed to over the years.

The secondary release to completely disconnect from the kite is a pull release. Most times you need that when something is tensioning the line and it is a simple pull, in the event that you want to activate that second release while everything is slack (ie you drop the kite in the surf and want to let it all go before it gets tensioned), its pretty easy to hold the line in one hand and pull with the other.

Knowing how your gear works is a pretty basic pre req in a sport like this.
But when you do require it but the lines are not tensioned and you have only one hand free, then you are f**cked.

There is no reason to take the chance.
The simple solution is to attach the BRM length adjustment line to the ring the Q/release is normally clipped onto and clip the Q/release onto a sliding ring on a rope or to a swivel on a rope (or to a ring at the centre of the spreader bar).
So basically reverse the BRM attachment rope+Q/R, so it is push away, not pull (and you can clip it to a swivel if you want).
reversedBRM.jpg

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Re: Chicken Loop Bye Bye?

Postby daspi » Thu Jun 02, 2022 2:54 pm

daspi wrote:
Mon May 30, 2022 5:17 pm
I'm considering getting a simple carbon tube and drill my own center hole. Nothing new, many have done this I'm sure. Now how do you fill or build up the center hole so it is nice and smooth for the rope to run through? I would appreciate some guidance.
Never mind. Found answers in other forums. Most fill with Epoxy and graphite mix or insert a Nylon rod. Acetal rod could be used too.

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Re: Chicken Loop Bye Bye?

Postby airsail » Thu Jun 02, 2022 7:57 pm

daspi wrote:
Thu Jun 02, 2022 2:54 pm
daspi wrote:
Mon May 30, 2022 5:17 pm
I'm considering getting a simple carbon tube and drill my own center hole. Nothing new, many have done this I'm sure. Now how do you fill or build up the center hole so it is nice and smooth for the rope to run through? I would appreciate some guidance.
Never mind. Found answers in other forums. Most fill with Epoxy and graphite mix or insert a Nylon rod. Acetal rod could be used too.
I use carbon MTB handle bars, yes they aren’t straight but work perfectly well. The enlarged mount in the middle means you can drill a hole and fill with epoxy and chopped carbon fibre without loosing strength. Cheap to buy of AliExpress.

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Re: Chicken Loop Bye Bye?

Postby daspi » Tue Jun 07, 2022 3:16 pm

Got my 22x20x50mm bar in. Super light. I might roll another layer of carbon around the center before I drill the center hole. I'll post my progress.


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