That would make it cross on conditions as far as the waves are concerned.bigtone667 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 10:19 pmWe are a little bit lucky with onshore conditions because we have a 500m sandbank in front of the beach that is 45 degrees to direction of the wind and waves. We get some truly awesome long rides. And some long swims when we drop the kite.plummet wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:46 amI kinda agree with you and i dont all at the same time. Yes if you are on a wave you are riding it. But the waves you get in onshore conditions are piecemeal crappy waves and due to the onshore wind you are limited to a few shitty turns before having to carve out and stop the kite from slack lining,bigtone667 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:58 am
I agree completely with this assessment. We have a great on-shore wind/wave location and our major issue is keeping line tension in the kite as we travel down the face of the wave and towards the kite. Our choices are to either ride over-powered to have enough power on the wave to keep line tension and control, or to have a good looping, drifting kite.
I fly Clouds, so I can ride a little over-powered, drift and loop. Nothing unusual for me to downloop the kite four or five times on a 200 or 300m ride to maintain line tension and introduce power.
You then ride cross shore and cross off and instantly can sustain extended down the line riding many times better than onshore mush. Sure you can ride the mush. But thats what it is mush. When i am ridding mush i dont even consider it wave riding, Nor do i try to wave ride the crud. BUT i have glorious waves i a reasonably consistant basis so i can cherry pick the good conditions and fang around in the not so good. The guys that never get good conditions must do the best they can with there cruddy mushy surf.
This comment, which seems to have started some debate, was not meant to suggest that direct on shore is not a real wave, it's not fun, or it's not difficult. It can be all of those things. But more that you cannot generally make surf style moves (similar moves a surfer might make if riding the same wave), off the lip, break out the fins, bottom turn, up the face, etc. due to the wind direction. So it is not in the same category as what kite companies market as a wave kite which is intended for surf style.Eduardo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:44 amIf you are in side shore waves or side off, the kite is parked and drifting downwind. Cabrinha Drifter is a great example of such a kite.
If the wind has some on shore to it, you are forced to move the kite. Quick pivot turning without big pull is a big help. Naish Pivot is a great example.
Direct on shore, you are not really wave riding in my view (as Plummet said - define wave riding!) In these conditions, you are playing in waves. Here, any all around kite is fine, including Naish Pivot.
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