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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021 SABfoil

Postby Qiter » Tue Sep 21, 2021 12:44 pm

romian wrote:
Tue Sep 21, 2021 12:37 pm
70 kg. (155 lb.) rider here, learning with 633/483 and 61 cm. (24 in.) Slingshot alu mast on a 156 cm. (5' 1") board and LEIs.

I´ve had 8 sessions so far and can ride pretty long distances upwind and downwind when is flat. Small S turns and now starting to try heels to toes tack.

But most spots here are quite choppy and I find that the short mast is making me fall when I hit crests or the wing breaches if I try to ride over them. I figure out that it´s time to get a longer mast, isn´t it?

Should I go for Sabfoil 82 or for 91/92 at this moment?
91/92. Longer mast will make your life much easier, especially in chop. Less wave crest touchdowns, much more stable due to larger part being in water.
You will never go back to the short mast.
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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021 SABfoil

Postby Cefirmeza » Tue Sep 21, 2021 1:14 pm

Qiter wrote:
Tue Sep 21, 2021 12:44 pm
romian wrote:
Tue Sep 21, 2021 12:37 pm
70 kg. (155 lb.) rider here, learning with 633/483 and 61 cm. (24 in.) Slingshot alu mast on a 156 cm. (5' 1") board and LEIs.

I´ve had 8 sessions so far and can ride pretty long distances upwind and downwind when is flat. Small S turns and now starting to try heels to toes tack.

But most spots here are quite choppy and I find that the short mast is making me fall when I hit crests or the wing breaches if I try to ride over them. I figure out that it´s time to get a longer mast, isn´t it?

Should I go for Sabfoil 82 or for 91/92 at this moment?
91/92. Longer mast will make your life much easier, especially in chop. Less wave crest touchdowns, much more stable due to larger part being in water.
You will never go back to the short mast.
What about foil pumping?
How is the 82 better than 91/92 for pure pumping since less mast under water the better

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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021 SABfoil

Postby dave1986 » Tue Sep 21, 2021 1:32 pm

What's the best Moses SABfoil and mast length for big air boosting?

I assume this answer depends on lots of factors such as skill level, wave/ chop size... but assuming medium size waves and chop and intermediate/advanced skill level...

My assumption is that something fast, but easy to control will be best , like the W590.. on a 101cm mast?

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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021 SABfoil

Postby grigorib » Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:06 am

My 730-1200 kitefoil and freshly arrived 1700 sq.cm winging wings (paired with surf 310 sq.cm stabilizer). I couldn’t stop myself from asking for pretty orange fuselages and I got them
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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021 SABfoil

Postby grigorib » Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:09 am

My 730 freeride and 1200 sq.cm lightwind wings with 425 stabilizer on kite fuselage and 101cm mast. It’s been pretty enchanting to ride those.
Needless to emphasize the original 425 stabilizer is the best stabilizer I’ve ever ridden
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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021 SABfoil

Postby mwdnasa » Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:50 am

You rate S425 over S400 ? Been wondering if S400 would be looser as no wingtips (kiting with W800, riding a bit of ocean chop).

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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021 SABfoil

Postby grigorib » Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:46 pm

mwdnasa wrote:
Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:50 am
You rate S425 over S400 ? Been wondering if S400 would be looser as no wingtips (kiting with W800, riding a bit of ocean chop).
I’m not a big fan of semi/flat stabilizers like 400/370/new425/325/273. Some like them for ability to spin on a wave but I prefer yaw stability which winglets bring.

Also 425 seems to be the largest of race stabilizers and I like extra stabilizer area as well

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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021 SABfoil

Postby geron » Tue Oct 05, 2021 9:28 pm

Does anybody know what is the distance between the two M6 screws of the Moses-Sab carbon masts? I am thinking of the M92 (but I think this is a standard measure for all?)
Thanks

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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021 SABfoil

Postby grigorib » Wed Oct 06, 2021 3:19 am

geron wrote:
Tue Oct 05, 2021 9:28 pm
Does anybody know what is the distance between the two M6 screws of the Moses-Sab carbon masts? I am thinking of the M92 (but I think this is a standard measure for all?)
Thanks
48mm
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Re: Moses 2019-2020-2021 SABfoil

Postby grigorib » Thu Oct 07, 2021 2:31 pm

I have couple of 730/1200/1700 wings available for sale along with fuselages, surf/race stabilizers and 70/90cm masts if needed.
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