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Re: marc jacobs kota - pushed harder than anyone

Postby Van Hunk » Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:11 am

Marc Jacobs was the ONLY rider interviewed during the entire event who bitched about the rules and how they counted against him. Poor lamb.

Made him sound like a sore loser and well, like a bee-ach.

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Re: marc jacobs kota - pushed harder than anyone

Postby longwhitecloud » Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:10 am

I saw him write a very complimentary congratulations to Kevin L regarding his KOTA win, on his insta.

There is no doubt the rules counted against trick progression/innovation, seemed more so this year. Think about Aarons KGB megaloop a few years ago - way lower, but won. The maths of 70/30 today make innovation a waste of time.

Its totally fair to comment on IMO. Judging should be fully transparent, with scoring examples, opportunity to talk to the trained judges about what they are looking for and exactly how they will calculate the final score based on the 70/30 rule based on height difference /trick(rather than guess), otherwise an already subjective judging system becomes even more subjective.

The ski rescue looked an awesome improvement as well as the scoring system. The KOTA needs more judging transparency imo - just telling everyone 70\30 just means nothing. WSL made things super transparent - has made the comps way better than they used to be when everyone was arguing whether Kelly or Andy should have won due to too much subjectivity

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Re: marc jacobs kota - pushed harder than anyone

Postby prop_joe » Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:43 pm

jumptheshark wrote:
Sun Feb 10, 2019 2:00 am
Jumped the shark just there
Reminds me of the kid at school that owns the ball and takes it away when his team starts losing. It's the hypocrisy that really gets me.
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Re: marc jacobs kota - pushed harder than anyone

Postby Faxie » Fri Feb 15, 2019 12:03 am

longwhitecloud wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:10 am
I saw him write a very complimentary congratulations to Kevin L regarding his KOTA win, on his insta.

There is no doubt the rules counted against trick progression/innovation, seemed more so this year. Think about Aarons KGB megaloop a few years ago - way lower, but won. The maths of 70/30 today make innovation a waste of time.

Its totally fair to comment on IMO. Judging should be fully transparent, with scoring examples, opportunity to talk to the trained judges about what they are looking for and exactly how they will calculate the final score based on the 70/30 rule based on height difference /trick(rather than guess), otherwise an already subjective judging system becomes even more subjective.

The ski rescue looked an awesome improvement as well as the scoring system. The KOTA needs more judging transparency imo - just telling everyone 70\30 just means nothing. WSL made things super transparent - has made the comps way better than they used to be when everyone was arguing whether Kelly or Andy should have won due to too much subjectivity
Next year they won't even bother kitelooping, and just go for height with 10's or 11's.

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Re: marc jacobs kota - pushed harder than anyone

Postby longwhitecloud » Fri Feb 15, 2019 1:26 am

Absolutely - if looping only counts for 30% - why even bother, it seems to me that a big loop scored higher than a higher rotation. Their maths says that should not be like that.

Judging transparency is needed, it is too vague. I wouldnt want to be training hard for a competition where someones random opinion of the day decides the result.


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