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Flexifoil Shiva vs. Best TS

Postby szert » Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:15 pm

Buying my first used kites to learn.
I plan to have a 9m kite and the second one would be a 12m or a 13m. (I'm 88-90kg depending on my breakfast)

I found two models for the same, reasonable price and both in good condition.

Flexifoil Shiva 2014 13m
or
Best TS 2016 12m

Which one would you recommend to go with?

and a few more options:
HQ ignition v2 2016/7 12m (similar price)
2017 Slingshot Rally 12m (60% more expensive)
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Re: Flexifoil Shiva vs. Best TS

Postby Pemba » Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:27 pm

I don't know the Flexifoil Shiva but I think the difference between 2014 and 2016 might be relevant, though I think Best might have had valve issues with the 2015 or 2016 models. So no recomendation, just two things maybe to take into consideration.
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Re: Flexifoil Shiva vs. Best TS

Postby Zen_Rider » Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:38 pm

I don't know the Shiva either, but since Flexifoil have pretty much given up on kitesurfing I would avoid them, you will struggle to find spares, and when you come to buy your second size, it's not essential but it is helpful to have the same brand, and ideally the same model.
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Re: Flexifoil Shiva vs. Best TS

Postby Kees » Fri Aug 02, 2019 2:47 am

If you are looking to get your first kite to learn the Best TS is not the best (😎) kite lo learn in my opinion. It’s not as easy a kite compared to for instance the Best Roca which will be a lot more forgiving, allowing you to learn quicker. Might be hard to find used, but best has a pretty good deal on new kites with bar. Don’t know the flexifoil Shiva either :)
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Re: Flexifoil Shiva vs. Best TS

Postby Sun » Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:25 am

2015 Best kites had valve issues. 2016 was fine. I have a 12m 2016 TS, and it was my favorite 12m until I flew the Dice. Nothing wrong with the kite, it will do well for a beginner. Like others have said, it is not the best for a newbie, but it is far from bad. Loads better than the gear I learned on. Roca would be the better choice, but if you can get a 12m TS for a good price, you cannot go wrong.
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Re: Flexifoil Shiva vs. Best TS

Postby windsuks » Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:51 am

Pretty sure the Shiva will be older than 2014!
I'd go speak to the guys at The Kitesurf Centre since it looks like it's your go to beach.
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Re: Flexifoil Shiva vs. Best TS

Postby richy-c » Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:29 am

Ive had a 2015 12m Best TS since new. No issues great kite.Cant see any problems for learning on it
Very stable and strong.
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Re: Flexifoil Shiva vs. Best TS

Postby Mike101 » Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:51 pm

Best roca or kahoona are far more beginner friendly kites from that brand

I'm still riding my 2015 kahoona, the back lines are like permanently slack. Huge wind range. Turns VERY slowly. Very low bar pressure. Super easy jumper.

The TS is more advanced . It will likely catch you out, not impossible but may make learning harder. If you are kiting in steady thermal winds get whatever you want really. If your conditions are gusty storm winds I wouldn't recommend the TS , you need to know how to dump power from edging and it can loop much more easily on you after a crash due to the faster turning speeds

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Re: Flexifoil Shiva vs. Best TS

Postby richy-c » Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:06 pm

Mike101 wrote:
Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:51 pm
Best roca or kahoona are far more beginner friendly kites from that brand

I'm still riding my 2015 kahoona, the back lines are like permanently slack. Huge wind range. Turns VERY slowly. Very low bar pressure. Super easy jumper.

The TS is more advanced . It will likely catch you out, not impossible but may make learning harder. If you are kiting in steady thermal winds get whatever you want really. If your conditions are gusty storm winds I wouldn't recommend the TS , you need to know how to dump power from edging and it can loop much more easily on you after a crash due to the faster turning speeds
I have both the TS and Kahoona. Have you flown a 12 TS? Not a fast kite at all in 12m size. Quite lazy in fact. Easy relaunch. Ive taught my wife on it and shes petit.

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Re: Flexifoil Shiva vs. Best TS

Postby Pemba » Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:58 am

I have 12 TS and have had 11.5 Kahoona though different years. Advantage of Kahoona is very good relaunch. But disadvantage is that it backstalls very easily in little wind. A beginner doesn't recognize the point that it does, so that's a significant problem I find. TS doesn't relaunch as easily but is also more difficult to backstall. Nothing wrong with learning on it I think.


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