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Advice for a beginner

Postby mart112233 » Wed Nov 06, 2019 2:46 am

Hello everyone, can someone give me an advice. I want to learn kitesurfing. I took some very basic lessons. I live in Washington DC and there are no stores to go to to ask/buy used equipment. I'd like to purchase a kite with lines and control bar to train with on the land, possibly later trying body dragging and relaunching kite, self landing, etc. on the water.
I don't want to buy a new kite because of $ and because of the fact that I'll crash the kite probably more than "once". Anyone can recommend what to buy. Size and brand that is easy to control/suitable for beginner. I looked on e-bay and there is so many option, I just don't know what would suit my needs the best. Thank you Martin

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Re: Advice for a beginner

Postby FLandOBX » Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:18 am

Hello, Martin. Welcome to the forum.

It sounds like you are just beginning the kitesurfing journey, so I'd recommend a 3-5 meter power kite (also called a "trainer kite"). Slingshot, Ozone, HQ and others have good options. A power kite will be useful on land and will help you learn most of the basics of kite control. You can also use a power kite with a kite buggy, mountain board, snowboard, etc.

Once you're ready to move to water activities like body dragging and waterstarts, I suggest driving south from D.C. to the Outer Banks (Hatteras Island) for more in depth lessons (Kitty Hawk Kites, Real, Ocean Air - lots of kite schools). Once you've had a few lessons on the water, you'll have a better idea what to buy next (11-12 meter medium aspect LEI kite).

Be careful with e-Bay kites. Unless you have a lot of knowledge, you can waste a lot of money on used e-Bay kites that are outdated and possibly unsafe. Kitesurfing is a great sport, but be careful. It can be dangerous to use larger kites (6+ meters) without training. The safety systems on current model kites are usually good, but you'll want someone to show you how to use them before trying on your own.

Have fun!
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Re: Advice for a beginner

Postby Havre » Wed Nov 06, 2019 10:29 am

What do you mean with very basic lessons?

In the "old days" people learned by themselves. So not going to say that is impossible and will lead to a certain death, but I wouldn't recommend it. And certainly not on land by yourself.

As FlandOBX says a trainer kite can be useful. At least it means you don't have to spend hours paying for an instructor watching you use a trainer kite. Could save you some money I guess.

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Re: Advice for a beginner

Postby Dave_5280 » Wed Nov 06, 2019 1:35 pm

Get the DVD Progression Beginner
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Re: Advice for a beginner

Postby SWO_kite » Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:02 pm

I support exactly what FLandOBX stated. Get a decent trainer 3-5m. Make plans to go to OBX next year for some in depth lessons.
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Re: Advice for a beginner

Postby NoHater » Fri Nov 08, 2019 2:54 am

Agreed with what is said above. Get the trainer kite and have fun with it. Consume all the training material you can online and plan a trip around some good lessons.

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Re: Advice for a beginner

Postby SWO_kite » Fri Nov 08, 2019 3:35 pm

NoHater wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 2:54 am
Consume all the training material you can online and plan a trip around some good lessons.
That is an excellent point. There's so much educational material available for free right now! I almost forgot how much I researched in the first two years trying to get familiar with concepts and terminology.

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Re: Advice for a beginner

Postby grigorib » Fri Nov 08, 2019 4:29 pm

but don't get a "trainer" trainer. 2-3 line trainers teach you part of piloting but also teach you to hang on that bar while you should be able to counter-intuitively push it out to ride

Get a 5-6m depower kite as a trainer. Flysurfer Viron can do, A small Pivot/SST/Rally/Envy would do. And you'd be able to reuse the kite for nuking winds later on and you'd get a bar you can use for your regular size kite.

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Re: Advice for a beginner

Postby alford » Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:33 pm

A small two line trainer will make you feel like you're taking the first steps but there is little to no carryover to a lei. In fact as grig points out above it can teach bad habits that you'll need to unlearn.
Save up and go to OBX and take lessons from Captian Ty. He has a state of the art boat setup for lessons and he knows how to teach, plus he is a great person too. It's not cheap but in the long run you'll actually save by investing less in endless lessons from others and you'll save valuable time! Seriously, look him up.

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Re: Advice for a beginner

Postby Havre » Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:36 pm

Certainly an argument that one might develop a bad habit of holding on to the bar, but my guess is that 20 hours with a trainer will still develop a lot of feel for how a kite moves and behaves.

I'm a lot better with a trainer now then I was learning how to kite. So if there is carry over that way why wouldn't it be some the othee way as well?

Biggest reason is that spending hours after hours with a trainer is rather boring.


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