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Re: Different kites in different sizes quiver

Postby tautologies » Wed Dec 04, 2019 12:46 am

I'm all for having a variety of kites. My favorites are Pivot for TT and waves, and Slash for waves and foiling. I use the smaller slash because of its high wind capabilities, and bigger slashes for high wind jumping and slightly lighter wind wave riding.

Now I think I can make an argument for using different kites just for instance TT. The quality of the wind changes as the strength increases. Very rarely will you have super stable wind when it gets really strong. I love how the slash jumps a little softer than the pivot and it feels really controllable even in shitty quality winds. It depends where your priorities are...but I love my pivot slash combo.....with a dash of boxer.
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Re: Different kites in different sizes quiver

Postby edt » Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:06 am

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Tue Dec 03, 2019 8:45 pm
@edt - how's the pivot for foiling?

@OBX - more kite, more fun, more angry Mrs when spent 1000s on kites! Haha
Pivot is fantastic for foiling but like others have stated above, if you really want to get low end, you have to use a foil kite with a hydrofoil so that might be a good reason to have a mixed quiver. Hard to beat a 12m soul for low end hydrofoiling. So it does depend on how low you want to go. If you get to light enough wind speeds you need to have a foil kite, because at the lowest wind range tube kites just fall out of the sky. i'm always on a mixed quiver for cost reasons, I just buy what's available and hate it. Liquid force, slingshot, wainman, duotone, naish, pansh, ozone, C kites, hybrids, regular bow kites, foil kites I think I have 15 kites now most of them old a few that are brand new but I want to get rid of all of them and just have 4 kites. Waiting for next year, it's slow in the winter, so harder to unload my old stuff. It's way better to have just a one kind of kite and keep them new, maybe two types of kite if you need one for wakestyle or hydrofoiling.
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Re: Different kites in different sizes quiver

Postby Matteo V » Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:34 am

edt wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 8:07 pm
You absolutely do NOT need a separate wave and boosting kite.
I would have put the emphasis on the word "NEED" in the above statement.

If you do have wave specific kites, they are likely just not going to let you boost. If you have boosting kites, they will likely not let you depower and drift to where you can simulate prone surfing with your kitesurfing.

But my honest recommendation - Use the kite that you have, and ride it with a focus on it's strengths. If it is a powerful kite for jumping but does not drift and depower well, use speed on the face of the wave and do something more than just simulating prone surfing. If it is a really good wave kite that drifts and depowers to the point where you can sometimes eliminate significant pull from the kite, then pretend you are prone surfing with it (but really think about this one before you swallow the blue pill). If you have an all around kite, then you can do a little of both - without being great at either.

Make the kite you have work, and work with the kite you have. And stop.....JUST STOP trying to do something you are not doing. I would never pretend I was kitesurfing while driving a race car, nor would I pretend I was driving a race car when I was kiting.
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Re: Different kites in different sizes quiver

Postby grigorib » Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:58 am

Rob112 wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 8:45 pm
@edt - how's the pivot for foiling?

@OBX - more kite, more fun, more angry Mrs when spent 1000s on kites! Haha
Just like 2016-2019 Rally the Pivot is amazing universal kite. Boosts great, drifts well and turns fast. Less bar pressure than Rally but I can’t stand unnecessary complexity of Pivot’s squid inflation system
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Re: Different kites in different sizes quiver

Postby edt » Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:27 am

grigorib wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:58 am
Rob112 wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 8:45 pm
@edt - how's the pivot for foiling?

@OBX - more kite, more fun, more angry Mrs when spent 1000s on kites! Haha
Just like 2016-2019 Rally the Pivot is amazing universal kite. Boosts great, drifts well and turns fast. Less bar pressure than Rally but I can’t stand unnecessary complexity of Pivot’s squid inflation system
2020 Pivot no longer has the Naish octopus system they have the normal system. go get one if that's all that was holding you back!

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Re: Different kites in different sizes quiver

Postby plummet » Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:07 am

Yep I do.

I start of insanely high aspect for cranking up wind and boosty floaty jumps then as it gets windier i reduce down in aspect ratio until im and super low aspect for batshit crazy conditions.

12m chrono awesome superlight wind buggy and foiling machine plus floaty as jumps on the landboard and mutant
10m edge Boooooostage for mutant riding, a bit of landboard jumps and great for kitebuggy speed.
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Re: Different kites in different sizes quiver

Postby fzonatto » Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:31 pm

I have a Duotone neo 12 when the windy is weak i use for downwind wave ride until about 18 or 19 knots maximum when I would change to my TT and over 25 would take my rebel and just boost when there is wind there is nothing better than that...
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Re: Different kites in different sizes quiver

Postby BudhaNl » Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:12 am

I've an Airush Ultra 12m for low wind TT riding. I've tried with the SB but that doesn't work with my limited skills. Then 7-9 Pivots for both TT and SB, and a 6 Slash for highest winds on the TT and more wide use for the SB.

The Pivot 9 is good for TT but not so much for SB, for me it's a little slow, so I am considering a Dash 10 as a replacement :lol: :lol: which would make 4 different kites in my quiver.
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Re: Different kites in different sizes quiver

Postby bragnouff » Fri Dec 06, 2019 9:36 pm

8m Peak4, 5m Peak4, 9m Zeeko Notus Rev, 7m GK Trix, 5.5 GK Trix, 4m Airush DNA
That's some variety in the quiver, but all get used on various supports and conditions. None of them is very specialized. All round is good!
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Re: Different kites in different sizes quiver

Postby Rob112 » Sat Dec 07, 2019 8:42 am

Thank for input guys, food for thought. Think I'm just finding an excuse to buy more kites - which is no bad thing!


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