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Postby Toby » Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:52 pm
I just saw this new hook...with a lock.
For those who don't unhook (like me), this looks like a new safety feature for our sport.
What do you guys think...and anyone already used it?
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Postby Kerplow » Thu Nov 19, 2020 1:03 pm
Looks nice. Now we will see chickenfinger free bars coming next if this will stick
But this makes sense.
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Postby leeuwen » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:34 pm
I wonder if the "lock" 100% prevents a line getting accidentally hooked.
It is not super clear to me based on the picture/video.
(e.g. with a Hindenburg situation it can happen with a regular hook resulting in a death loop)
Now if they would just combine it with a similar spreader system as the stealth/unity bar it would be perfect.
Although I just moved to mostly foiling so using a surf setup at the moment.
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Postby jedi1 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:44 pm
It's kinda similar to what Mystic has in their rope spreader bar with that micro loop. Still good that companies are creating more choices for the riders.
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Postby downunder » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:04 pm
That clip on top locks it? Still a line catcher.
Looks great. I think the hook of any form is not great. Yes, we live with it but to be fair it caused many injuries.
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Postby cor » Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:31 pm
I had the chance to try the hook on the beach and the mechanism felt quite clumsy. I doubt that you could handle it with gloves on. Also, it is a line catcher like downunder said. Other than that it works quite well I guess. Is it a game changer? I don´t know.
It´s a good addition, but I am not sure if this is the right direction for hooked in. What exactly do we need a chicken loop for, anyway? In my opinion, companies should consider getting rid both of the hook and the huge release mechanisms and introduce something smaller and neat like a Snapshackle that is fixed directly to your harness but that you use to release the kite. This would not only be cheaper, cleaner and safer, but - even more important - you could have way more depower (a few more centimeters in fact!) because the bar would be closer to you without all that nonsense under the bar.
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Postby purdyd » Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:12 pm
I think it’s time for hooks to leave.
The mystic surf rope slider that can be used as a slider or fixed is I think the way to go if you don’t unhook.
I think the quick releases need to catch up. Sure there are rope slider loops and free ride loops but the whole mechanism could be smaller.
I think instead of a loop it should be a fixed low friction fair lead ring that is part of the harness and attached via a rope to the harness.
Remember the slingshot surefire spreader? The ion hook is like back to the future.
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Postby SMJ » Sun Mar 14, 2021 1:06 pm
This product looks fantastic. Anybody take the plunge yet and have any riding experience / reviews on it?
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Postby iriejohn » Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:18 pm
purdyd wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:12 pm
I think it’s time for hooks to leave.
Agree with you.
Hooks etc. are fine for those who want to unhook, but for the >95% (?) who never do they are simply a pointless legacy complication.
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Postby knotwindy » Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:21 pm
If you’re not going to unhook and are going to reinvent the wheel, please don’t make things more complicated than they need to be. Why have moving parts with sand everywhere?
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