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Re: What bar size do you run?

Postby jumptheshark » Wed May 05, 2021 1:34 am

A single bar.... how quaint.

Wait till you actually get into kiting.

If a single point of failure keeps you of the water,

Your pretty much a casual.

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Re: What bar size do you run?

Postby vakiter » Wed May 05, 2021 2:51 am

I use 55cm and bigger. I like kite to turn fast, but I dont do ton of inverts just backrolls. Only setup I didnt like big bar was 5m sst, in surfboard in hi wind. On foil big bar is nice on all kites , peaks included . I do like short lines though.

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Re: What bar size do you run?

Postby leeuwen » Wed May 05, 2021 12:37 pm

Da Yoda wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 9:40 pm
Imo that's a bad idea. I've tried and accepted having two bars is the way to go. MacKite has a decent vid about this
MacKite is a company that it is in the business of selling kite gear. That isn't exactly independent advice.
Off-course they are going to suggest buying more gear.

For most people have you can easily get away with a single bar size IMHO.
Just get a bar that works for your biggest kite and it will work for everything smaller.
Yes you might to decrease your steering input a little but we are not talking gigantic worlds of difference.
I fly everything down to 4M on a single bar and don't have any issues with it.
Maybe if you have an old badly designed 17M+ kite you start to need a bar that is really big but that won't be most people.

More valid reasons for multiple bars other then size:
* Get a second new bar for the days that it is nuking so you know it has no wear when you jump sky-high and your life might depend on it
* Redundancy, especially if you go on kite trips where you might not be able to get repairs/replacements
* Ultraligh versions for foiling can be nice
* Different line lenghts and cannot be bothered to change them
* People with foil kites tend to want to pack up including a bar and might want bigger bars
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Re: What bar size do you run?

Postby vakiter » Wed May 05, 2021 12:45 pm

This post is spot on. Great points.

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Re: What bar size do you run?

Postby Matteo V » Wed May 05, 2021 1:22 pm

Shorter bars are the way to go because they are super cheap on closeout since very few kiters actually want/need them, they are "a dime a dozen" used, and virtually never have any wear on them when purchased used.

Another way to look at it is that you would never buy a factory lineset to replace the lines on a shorter bar, because you can pick up a shorter bar, again virtually unused, for the price of that lineset or less.

Unfortunately, shorter bars are not for me.

While I can see where nearly all beginners can get some benefit from a shorter bar (I was there at the beginning of my kite experience), the situation with intermediate to advanced kiters is a bit different and more situationally specific. The only example for a shorter bar being a good idea for intermediate through advanced is to make up for some degree of error with handle passes. That's it!

Where I kite for 6 months of the year, we tend to have gusty/turbulent winds. To compensate for gusts and lulls along with turbulence, a longer bar works wonders. Regardless of the inherent turning speed of a particular model of kite, a longer bar will allow a faster redirect. This allows for kiting in higher turbulence without sining the kite too much (poor upwind performance), and gives an experienced kiter a bit higher success rate in keeping the kite up.

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Re: What bar size do you run?

Postby fatkiter » Wed May 05, 2021 1:56 pm

Actually this morning I was checking to buy a new large bar to use with my 17 m kite.

For everything 8m to 14 m a 50 cm bar is fine for me but for a slow turning 17m in light wind I really feel that a bigger bar can make a big difference...

PLUS I can set it up with longer lines without having to change them every time

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Re: What bar size do you run?

Postby dango94 » Wed May 05, 2021 4:44 pm

I am blessed to have 4 Bars currently. A fixed 45cm, a 44-52cm, a fixed 50cm and a fixed 55cm. Everything between 20m and 25m line lenght. 2m Extensions as needed.

The 45 is used for the 7m. and the 44-52cm is more or less used for the rest (9m-15m) - don't even bother to adjust the width anymore. Always the 52 setting.
I believe if you are an advanced kiter and you can feel the difference, you will know what you need or like. Depending on your skill and spot conditions.

For me it is more the idea of redundancy and bars I collected over time and fixed them up. If the pigtails would match, the 44-52cm would be used across the board. Probably on the 52cm setting :lol:

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Re: What bar size do you run?

Postby Lelandjt » Wed May 05, 2021 8:11 pm

50cm with 20m lines for 6, 7, 8, and 10m. 55cm with 24m lines for 12m kite.

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Re: What bar size do you run?

Postby sflinux » Thu May 06, 2021 3:53 pm

Bars with adjustable bar ends were a great idea to consolidate bars. I have one of those adjustable bars 43/55 cm (17"/21.6"). I typically use the 55 cm length for my big kites (~15M). I typically use a 43cm for 5M-9M kites.
But For smaller kites (<5M) 43cm is too long.
But I typically use two bars as I like short lines (~17M) for my 9M and smaller kites, and standard lines (~20M) for my 15M kite.
My other bars include pulleybars and rooster ring bars for more efficient riding.

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Re: What bar size do you run?

Postby plummet » Thu May 06, 2021 5:24 pm

50cm bar for all my leis. 10-8-6-4
my 12mm chrono has its own bar 55cm.

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