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Most fun kite in sub 10 knots and a surf wing

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Re: Most fun kite in sub 10 knots and a surf wing

Postby bkkite » Wed May 12, 2021 6:59 pm

Also looking for a good light wind kite for the low wind days. I'm riding a slingshot hover glide on the infinity 76 surf wing, I'm 215lbs.

I've only ridden LEI kites, core XRs, slingshot rally, so I was thinking about single strut or strut less. I have no idea what im doing when it comes to these lighter wind kites, so would love some guidance.

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Re: Most fun kite in sub 10 knots and a surf wing

Postby rnelias » Wed May 12, 2021 7:06 pm

bkkite wrote:
Wed May 12, 2021 6:59 pm
Also looking for a good light wind kite for the low wind days. I'm riding a slingshot hover glide on the infinity 76 surf wing, I'm 215lbs.

I've only ridden LEI kites, core XRs, slingshot rally, so I was thinking about single strut or strut less. I have no idea what im doing when it comes to these lighter wind kites, so would love some guidance.
try Alpha or Ultra in 10-12m depending on your weight.

I'm 72kg and ride an Alpha 8m in winds ranging from 8 to 12k here where I live. My wing is equivalent to a Moses 633.

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Re: Most fun kite in sub 10 knots and a surf wing

Postby bkkite » Wed May 12, 2021 7:17 pm

rnelias wrote:
Wed May 12, 2021 7:06 pm
bkkite wrote:
Wed May 12, 2021 6:59 pm
Also looking for a good light wind kite for the low wind days. I'm riding a slingshot hover glide on the infinity 76 surf wing, I'm 215lbs.

I've only ridden LEI kites, core XRs, slingshot rally, so I was thinking about single strut or strut less. I have no idea what im doing when it comes to these lighter wind kites, so would love some guidance.
try Alpha or Ultra in 10-12m depending on your weight.

I'm 72kg and ride an Alpha 8m in winds ranging from 8 to 12k here where I live. My wing is equivalent to a Moses 633.
Would either work with a core bar? Ideally not looking to incur the cost of an extra bar. Would either of these be good for my wife to ride on twin tip with a bit more wind? Would be killer if I could ride it on a foil in super light wind, and she could ride it on twin tip if the wind picked up.

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Re: Most fun kite in sub 10 knots and a surf wing

Postby rnelias » Wed May 12, 2021 7:31 pm

bkkite wrote:
Wed May 12, 2021 7:17 pm
Would either work with a core bar? Ideally not looking to incur the cost of an extra bar. Would either of these be good for my wife to ride on twin tip with a bit more wind? Would be killer if I could ride it on a foil in super light wind, and she could ride it on twin tip if the wind picked up.
any low V bar will work. Maybe you'll have to adapt the end points using pigtails. Ozone uses the same scheme as Duotone (bar side is: knot, loop, loop, knot)

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Re: Most fun kite in sub 10 knots and a surf wing

Postby lederhosen » Wed May 12, 2021 8:36 pm

bkkite wrote:
Wed May 12, 2021 7:17 pm
rnelias wrote:
Wed May 12, 2021 7:06 pm
bkkite wrote:
Wed May 12, 2021 6:59 pm
Also looking for a good light wind kite for the low wind days. I'm riding a slingshot hover glide on the infinity 76 surf wing, I'm 215lbs.

I've only ridden LEI kites, core XRs, slingshot rally, so I was thinking about single strut or strut less. I have no idea what im doing when it comes to these lighter wind kites, so would love some guidance.
try Alpha or Ultra in 10-12m depending on your weight.

I'm 72kg and ride an Alpha 8m in winds ranging from 8 to 12k here where I live. My wing is equivalent to a Moses 633.
Would either work with a core bar? Ideally not looking to incur the cost of an extra bar. Would either of these be good for my wife to ride on twin tip with a bit more wind? Would be killer if I could ride it on a foil in super light wind, and she could ride it on twin tip if the wind picked up.
I think core uses a double frontline safety, ozone single frontline safety.

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Re: Most fun kite in sub 10 knots and a surf wing

Postby Gestalt » Wed May 12, 2021 9:21 pm

I have used an 8m Aluula Roam in sub 10 knots with success on a 1000cm2 foil. It's a slight challenge but can still be fun.
At those low wind speed dropping the kite in the water in lull's will happen and this kite is easy to relaunch unlike ufo's/clouds/etc.
The kite is still incredibly nimble and agile at that wind speed.
I also tried the same kite on a larger 1700cm2 surf wing, and it was ridiculously easy to cruise around.

Friend of mine had even a bigger wing and was having fun on a 7m UFO, walking the dog, etc.

I am guessing 10m Aluula Roam, may just be the sweet spot for sub-10 knots, as it's still fast enough to be playful as a kite and have the necessary pull.

Check this video of Reece kiting with the 10m Aluula Roam in sub 5 knots.

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Re: Most fun kite in sub 10 knots and a surf wing

Postby elguapo » Wed May 12, 2021 9:31 pm

either 6m peak4 for playing on the rolling swell... 7kts min.. but 9-10kts seems like a sweet spot for not worrying about outrunning the kite
an 8m peak4 has better low end.. but is too slow to be fun
i'm sure some could probaly waterstart a 13m peak4 in winds slightly above the min needed to stay in air.... but that's also not really fun to me. (is just spending time in water...seeing wildlife)

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Re: Most fun kite in sub 10 knots and a surf wing

Postby bragnouff » Wed May 12, 2021 9:34 pm

Gestalt wrote:
Wed May 12, 2021 9:21 pm
(...)

Check this video of Reece kiting with the 10m Aluula Roam in sub 5 knots.
Sub 5 knots, yeah right!
I'm sure the Aluula is a great super light kite, but no need to overpimp it with claims like that... 5kts is f*ck all.
By the way, there is what looks like an Ozone kite further upwind that also flies in that wind.

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Re: Most fun kite in sub 10 knots and a surf wing

Postby matanshapira » Thu May 13, 2021 12:30 am

Ideally, one would use a large high aspect foil because it allows higher speed to allow going upwind with a smaller kite, and glide which keeps you flying in transitions and lulls. Speed and glide should make it more fun as it will allow to do things like a 360, sitting on the board. Also will allow an easier water start and pumping in lulls and in inaccurate transitions.
Even a larger low aspect foil can improve the experience.
Longer lines will allow using a smaller kite, increasing the fun factor and allowing an easy water start. But with longer lines alone I was still unable to go upwind with a 10.4 kite in 7-8 knots. I think a larger foil would've made it.
You can try my large P27 wing plus extensions, see if it makes a big difference.

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Re: Most fun kite in sub 10 knots and a surf wing

Postby GregK » Thu May 13, 2021 2:29 am

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