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Hugh2
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Postby Hugh2 » Wed May 12, 2021 1:32 pm
SolarSet wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 1:28 pm
Hugh2 wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 8:24 pm
At least now it is a real 9m kite, instead of a .9m kite.
yes because it very easy to confuse size 6m & 9m when you see them on the water
At least the number is reasonably large. Too many manufacturers have the size number too small to be seen easily from shore. It helps a lot to be able to quickly see what others are riding when you arrive at a spot.
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Toby
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Postby Toby » Wed May 12, 2021 1:48 pm
Hugh2 wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 1:32 pm
SolarSet wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 1:28 pm
Hugh2 wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 8:24 pm
At least now it is a real 9m kite, instead of a .9m kite.
yes because it very easy to confuse size 6m & 9m when you see them on the water
At least the number is reasonably large. Too many manufacturers have the size number too small to be seen easily from shore. It helps a lot to be able to quickly see what others are riding when you arrive at a spot.
Really important!
Our community demands it since 18 years or so.
The largest number Best used to show.
Should be clearly visible to users to get an idea what others use to not go wrong.
It helps others to decide and maybe helps to prevent an injury or worse.
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Kiterisland
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Postby Kiterisland » Wed May 12, 2021 3:58 pm
For xr users, what wind range would a 220lbs guy get out of the 12m on directional and twin tip? I’ve been on other 12m kites but curious just how huge the range is on these kites.
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grigorib
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Postby grigorib » Wed May 12, 2021 4:59 pm
Kiterisland wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 3:58 pm
For xr users, what wind range would a 220lbs guy get out of the 12m on directional and twin tip? I’ve been on other 12m kites but curious just how huge the range is on these kites.
I’d say from 13 knots (flat water) through 24 knots
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Havre
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Postby Havre » Wed May 12, 2021 5:36 pm
I don't know the XR, but being in the same weight class myself 13 knots seems optimistic. Less than 13 knots and you are struggling to get going with any size at 100kg in my experience on a TT.
Would be brilliant if it is the case though. When I considered the XR6 half a year ago I was planning to get a 13.5m for 15 knots+.
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brighamj
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Postby brighamj » Wed May 12, 2021 11:28 pm
I have a 12m incoming. Stoked!
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Postby flipper231 » Thu May 13, 2021 1:43 am
Toby wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 1:48 pm
Hugh2 wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 1:32 pm
SolarSet wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 1:28 pm
yes because it very easy to confuse size 6m & 9m when you see them on the water
At least the number is reasonably large. Too many manufacturers have the size number too small to be seen easily from shore. It helps a lot to be able to quickly see what others are riding when you arrive at a spot.
Really important!
I used to say the same but now with foilers using 6 and 7s when the it is 14m weather, better make your own choice.
Our community demands it since 18 years or so.
The largest number Best used to show.
Should be clearly visible to users to get an idea what others use to not go wrong.
It helps others to decide and maybe helps to prevent an injury or worse.
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SolarSet
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Postby SolarSet » Thu May 13, 2021 1:41 pm
Kiterisland wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 3:58 pm
For xr users, what wind range would a 220lbs guy get out of the 12m on directional and twin tip? I’ve been on other 12m kites but curious just how huge the range is on these kites.
I'm 200lbs and on 11m XR I need at least 16kts to ride upwind on TT, maybe some jumps in gust.
In winds below 18kts my soul is more fun but as soon I get 18kts wind XR is way better
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SMJ
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Postby SMJ » Sat May 15, 2021 1:50 pm
McLovin wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 8:57 am
Sizes as per the good folks down under: 5.0 | 6.0 | 7.0 | 8.0 | 9.0 | 10.0 | 11.0 | 12.0 | 13.5
There's also a 15 and 17 in the light-wind version. Looks like they discontinued the 19m.
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brighamj
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Postby brighamj » Sun Jun 13, 2021 8:21 pm
So, I have a 12m XR7 that I have ridden for two solid days. My early impressions are that it is a bit slow with the factory settings. I adjusted things and that helped a bit.
So far, between the new Rebel and XR7, I prefer the Rebel.
Also, my XR7 came to me with every single tube connection in need of attention (the struts to main bladder connections). Despite the top dollar they charge and their boasts of technology, Core still is using a simple, single zip-tie at these connections and they all were loose. (Check my photos. You can see daylight between the ties and the tubing, and they all spun freely.)
How did I find out, you may ask? Well, I laid the kite down after an under-rotation and one popped right off. It was not a hard crash at all. Only after a swim back to the beach with a brand new deflated kite did I figure out why. It is true, a chain is as strong as its weakest link.
I am hopeful now that the issue is sorted (double, tight zip-ties), I will grow fonder of this kite. I do like the stable, platform feeling it has in jumps.
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