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Re: How to turn a topic about a fatality into an absurd helmet discussion

Postby vannibombonato » Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:26 am

downunder wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:20 am
Again,

You missed to answer. Why are u doing it than?

Yeah, we dont travel, so would not know ;)

Karma will get u, one way or another. As seen.
Why I am here replying you?
You missed to read: as I’ve already said, I’m doing it not because I have even the slightest hope in convincing people like you, but because there is a tiny possibility that somebody else will read through this post and decide to wear an helmet.

Is there anything else you need me to answer?

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Re: How to turn a topic about a fatality into an absurd helmet discussion

Postby downunder » Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:38 am

Aha,

So you do not think that if someone makes a law that wearing a helmet is mandatory, the kiting numbers will drop?

Right. No need to answer. You said it all.

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Re: How to turn a topic about a fatality into an absurd helmet discussion

Postby vannibombonato » Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:44 am

downunder wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:38 am
Aha,

So you do not think that if someone makes a law that wearing a helmet is mandatory, the kiting numbers will drop?

Right. No need to answer. You said it all.
"Aha" what?

I dare to consider myself a pretty smart person, but i admit i don't have the slightest clue about what you are talking about. Why are you now making that question? What is the point you are trying to prove? What does it have to do with the whole debate?

If you want me to answer, my opinion is that if helmets were mandatory we would have exactly the same amount of kiters we have today. Do you have other dumb questions to make?

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Re: How to turn a topic about a fatality into an absurd helmet discussion

Postby andylc » Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:37 am

To take the conversation away from whether or not we should be all doing it, could anyone comment on the specifics of kitesurf helmets and why I shouldn't use my skiing one? It is lightweight, fits me like a glove, seems to have as many holes in it as the water specific helmets and the ear pieces are removable. What am I missing?

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Re: How to turn a topic about a fatality into an absurd helmet discussion

Postby Toby » Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:19 pm

back to the topic, thank you.

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Re: How to turn a topic about a fatality into an absurd helmet discussion

Postby PullStrings » Mon Jun 14, 2021 1:28 pm

Not wearing a helmet is like not wearing a face mask.....it is great !!!

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Re: How to turn a topic about a fatality into an absurd helmet discussion

Postby Matteo V » Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:44 pm

PullStrings wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 1:28 pm
Not wearing a helmet is like not wearing a face mask.....it is great !!!
Not wearing a helmet is like not wearing shoes..... it feels great until you step on a piece of glass.

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Re: How to turn a topic about a fatality into an absurd helmet discussion

Postby Matteo V » Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:59 pm

vannibombonato wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:44 am
downunder wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:38 am
Aha,

So you do not think that if someone makes a law that wearing a helmet is mandatory, the kiting numbers will drop?

Right. No need to answer. You said it all.
......If you want me to answer, my opinion is that if helmets were mandatory we would have exactly the same amount of kiters we have today. Do you have other dumb questions to make?
I don't know a single helmet user, or non helmet user in kiteboarding that has ever called for making some sort of legally enforced rule that kiters of any discipline should be required to wear helmets. It seems like virtually everyone, including me, is for freedom of choice on this one. However, one of the things I do advocate for is that every kiter should encourage every other kiter to take care and engage in our sport in the safest and most responsible manner possible within reason.

And given that there are no downsides to wearing a helmet, helmet use should be encouraged, while being too self concious to wear one should be discouraged.

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Re: How to turn a topic about a fatality into an absurd helmet discussion

Postby Matteo V » Mon Jun 14, 2021 6:23 pm

bragnouff wrote:
Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:19 am
.........A non-helmeted kiter who dies on a spot won't lead to a beach ban, but a few helmeted-muppets who send their kite onto bystanders will very likely achieve that. Riders who jump in the shallows among swimmers will also be super bad in that regard.......
Never have I seen intentionally bad behavior from any level of skilled kiter who uses a helmet, that could actually lead to a beach ban.

All of the "here, hold my beer" incidents were from non helmet users and the "in fashion" "trying to look cool" idiots that make stupid statements about not caring about anyone but themselves.


I often ask why a particular kiter wears a helmet. The range of answers is varied to a high degree. Some of them off the top of my head are.

1. I had a friend die from getting slammed into rocks
2. I saw a guy in person get slammed into ------- and get messed up or die
3. I use a leash (good reason, but bad idea to use a leash in most circumstances)
4. I've been knocked out by my board while prone surfing or kitesurfing.
5. Or just plain to prevent a head injury


While I rarely ask why someone doesn't wear a helmet, the answers to that question are always less clear. And it's obvious why. All of those answers are to cover up that they are actually too self concious to be seen wearing one.

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Re: How to turn a topic about a fatality into an absurd helmet discussion

Postby andylc » Mon Jun 14, 2021 7:01 pm

Anyone fancy answering my more practical question perchance?


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