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tacking with long lines

Postby dkazhdan » Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:09 am

hi all
Do you guys think it's possible to learn 180's and 360's while using 30m lines?
what i find is that the board is already on the opposite tack while the kite is still finishing the loop.
any special technique for doing 180's with long lines maybe?
thanks

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Re: tacking with long lines

Postby frequentflyer » Tue Jun 15, 2021 6:31 am

It’s definitely possible and is done but I don’t recommend it. I prefer shorter lines generally for their responsiveness and explosiveness but think the 16m lines I use are probably on the short side while still learning. There’s a reason most people are using a narrow range of line lengths: they work

Have you tried tacking without a loop?
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Re: tacking with long lines

Postby Peter_Frank » Tue Jun 15, 2021 6:37 am

Yes, fly the kite high first, go with speed, then pull the kite over before you start the 360.

Making a carving 360 in 7 knots of wind with a 12 m2 strutless on 30 m lines is fun :rollgrin:

A 180 should be easier.

The long lines makes carving so much better, smooth consistent power all the way round.
Besides more options to save or downloop, and possible to ride in less wind :thumb:

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Re: tacking with long lines

Postby Herman » Tue Jun 15, 2021 12:25 pm

I find a long bar throw helps and is, perhaps, more important with long lines. I like to be able to sheet out a lot to get the kite flying over Z quickly, then sheet in a lot to get a fairly pivoty loop and finally sheet out to accelerate the kite in the desired direction. If I am only doing a 180 I sheet out a lot to get the kite across Z but sheet fairly hard once kite has crossed Z and pull for a power stroke as soon as balanced for the new tack. Only my baseline mindset as you have to adapt to what’s occurring and it is still a work in progress for me.
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Re: tacking with long lines

Postby Regis-de-giens » Wed Jun 16, 2021 3:48 pm

dkazhdan wrote:
Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:09 am
hi all
Do you guys think it's possible to learn 180's and 360's while using 30m lines?
what i find is that the board is already on the opposite tack while the kite is still finishing the loop.
any special technique for doing 180's with long lines maybe?
thanks
I find it complicates a lot , but doable ; have the max speed you can , drive the kite with energy, and above all do not turn too short: do not "cut" your turn, keep a big radius to keep line tensioned (otherwise the kite will stop turning) = do not point downwind too early.
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Re: tacking with long lines

Postby jumptheshark » Wed Jun 16, 2021 7:13 pm

I have learned nearly all my foiling maneuvers with long lines. 21m on biggest foiling kite then step down to 17m, 13m and 12m.

I enjoy the the shorter three set ups the most, but definitely learn everything on longer lines. It attenuates lift, draws everything out and require less precision in the timing relative to smaller kites and shorter lines. Its just easier to do everything from switch your feet to the various tacks and jibes.

There are still things I have a hard time with on short lines.
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