SolarSet wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 21, 2021 9:18 am
I have similar experience while landing 4-6m transition jump with heliloop. It pulls me more than I expected forward. Does it mean that kite is not overflying me?
if so how to make transition jump to pull me less forward? I'm looping kite with bar sheet in meaning it will loop more in power zone? Sheeting bar out and looping kite would help to make loop of kite with less power?
If you are really pulling a heli loop, you want to make it a fairly wide loop. A narrow heli loop won't give you the lift you want for long enough so one of two things will happen. Either you'll loop it too high and end up with a heavy landing or you'll loop it too late and end up with a really fast downwind momentum.
What I call a landing loop is simply a kiteloop or downloop that is pulled as you come into land. It will still generate lift (though nowhere near as much as a heli loop) and give you a softer landing but the timing of the loop is a lot more forgiving than a full power kiteloop because the kite starts much closer to the edge of the wind window. The main difference is a landing loop will loop high but in front of you rather than directly above like a heli loop. Its all a bit semantics really but in the same way that a powered kiteloop isn't necessarily a megaloop, a kiteloop on the way down from a jump isn't necessarily a heli loop.
As an aside - If you want to start practicing heli loops without going really high you'll probably need to do a 'Sent Jump'. Essentially this is a jump where you move the kite fast across the window (from 11 to 1 say) at the top of the jump. It will give you a similar sensation to a kite loop (yank forwards and a swing under the kite) without the sphincter clenching worry about whether the kite will come up to catch you. I reckon you can probably start practicing heli loops from a sent jump at around 5-6m in height if you have a kite with a bit float.
If you are wondering why you want to learn to loop the kite in the first place - kiteloops are seen as safety loops by snow kiters as you can use them to lose height safely if you get caught in an updraft. So there you have it. Its a safety thing!