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Learning to jump with the foil With a kite, BTW

Postby papasmerf » Fri Oct 22, 2021 5:44 pm

So I’ve already gotten some very good advice on this subject from a couple people that I have heaps of respect for but it’s always nice to hear from the general kite forum folks. When starting to jump and even after you’ve become proficient at it, what is the rate of injury compared to learning to Foil? And are the injuries even more gruesome than normal, normal being either jumping with a twin tip, or just learning to Foil in general. Now obviously there are the few who compete in the big air contests, that’s not what I’m talking about. In my case, I’m in my 50s And I have 20 years of twin tipping under my belt, and I have over a year of Kite foiling and I’m talking 2 or three days a week. I guess I envisioned Jumpin the same way I did with the twin tip which was probably considered to be a lawnmowing type of jumping, long and low back roll kite loop, Front rolls or if I did go big, usually end with a down loop, now I understand that it’s different timing and a different technique but has any average Joe 50 year old had like heaps of problems making the transition, even with plenty of years behind them? Has anyone seen any increase in injuries versus Just regular coding

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Re: Learning to jump with the foil With a kite, BTW

Postby FLandOBX » Sat Oct 23, 2021 1:24 am

Boosting on a foilboard is easier than on a twintip. Once you master the technique on the foil, you'll get some huge altitude when you ride powered. If you keep your feet in the straps, boosting on the foilboard is relatively safe. The risk of injury arises if you kick the board off while airborne, because you can easily come down on top of it. If you've progressed your foilboarding skills to the point that you're beginning to boost, the risk of injury is a lot less than when you were learning to foil. Falling on the foil wings is when most injuries occur, and that's more likely during the beginner stage.

Like any sport, you need to keep in shape to avoid injury. Do regular strength and aerobic exercise, plus daily stretching, and your risk of injury will be significantly reduced. If you're in your 50's, you'll be fine as long as you keep in good shape and stretch every day. I'm a lot older than you, boost big on both twintip and foilboard, and have never had a serious kiteboarding injury, primarily due to daily (non-kiting) exercise and stretching. If you're in shape, go for it. Boosting big on a foilboard is a rush.

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Re: Learning to jump with the foil With a kite, BTW

Postby Peter_Frank » Sat Oct 23, 2021 7:32 am

Stretching?
It can't hurt, but how should it help prevent getting injured?

I never see any kitesurfers stretching no matter what age.
This could be wrong, agree.

On the other hand, when running, there are two scientific camps.

Some saying you should stretch (and if, only after never before), others saying it makes no difference.

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Re: Learning to jump with the foil With a kite, BTW

Postby sonny2727 » Sat Oct 23, 2021 8:01 am

Peter_Frank wrote:
Sat Oct 23, 2021 7:32 am
Stretching?
It can't hurt, but how should it help prevent getting injured?

I never see any kitesurfers stretching no matter what age.
This could be wrong, agree.

On the other hand, when running, there are two scientific camps.

Some saying you should stretch (and if, only after never before), others saying it makes no difference.

8) Peter
Agree ...stretching is most useless and overrated and now part of the Yoga culture and kind of fix for all issues ...

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Re: Learning to jump with the foil With a kite, BTW

Postby FLandOBX » Sat Oct 23, 2021 1:41 pm

Stretching daily reduces the risk of injury in every sport, including kiteboarding. It increases flexibility and decreases the chance of muscle strains and pulls. Doesn't take much...15 minutes per day. :thumb:

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Re: Learning to jump with the foil With a kite, BTW

Postby flaps1111 » Sat Oct 23, 2021 1:58 pm

We must not confuse stretching with warming up. Stretching is good for when you get home.
At 50 the most effective is mobility and strength exercises 2 or 3 times a week.
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Re: Learning to jump with the foil With a kite, BTW

Postby FLandOBX » Sat Oct 23, 2021 9:17 pm

:lol: You guys are too funny. It's probably not worth spending too much time debating semantics on an international forum. "Football" means different things to different people. So, focusing again on the OP's question about the risk of injury from boosting on a foilboard, I'll restate my advice this way:

Go for it; it's fun; but.......

Don't fall on your hydrofoil;

Get (or stay) physically fit; and

Maintain your physical flexibility.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.... :jump:
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Re: Learning to jump with the foil With a kite, BTW

Postby cglazier » Sun Oct 24, 2021 3:17 am

Jumping with a foilboard is quite similar to jumping with a twintip or surfboard. The landing is a bit trickier, you want to have just enough forward speed to bury your foil in the water and then start foiling ..ideally without your board touching down. This is not easy, but any landing where you don't get wet is successful.
Tip #1: Be sure your footstraps are loose enough for you to kick the board off if things aren't going right. In any reasonably high jump the board will drop and your kite will float you away from it.
Tip #2: Backrolls are easy ..just like on a twin tip. But personally I avoid front rolls because if you have a bad landing it can be right on top of your board.. not good.

You can get really nice high jumps in light wind with a hydrofoil. Have fun.

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