Havre wrote: ↑
Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:49 am
That is old from March. There is close to 0 disagreement in Norway as to AZ having killed those people. Which is why we suddenly stopped using it and haven't used it since.
As for causality and correlation I agree. One can easily argue causality can never be proven. But that goes for the virus as much as the vaccine.
We for some strange reason see death in binary terms when it comes to Covid-19. When the average age of someone dying "from" Covid is 80 years+ with multiple co-morbidities I think it is much more useful to see Covid as the last push over the edge rather than as the main cause for basically any death. Funnily after 2 years we aren't seeing a huge push to reduce BMI and get people healthier. If I was to make a wild guess forcing people to get below a BMI to below 25 would be far more efficient to reduce deaths than any Covid-vaccine long term (not that I'm supporting any forcing of anything).
How can it be a smoke screen when country after country is introducing "booster"? Well. Interpol just hired a known torturer as their chief so maybe the world is just that corrupt? That is just me being conspiratorial though
That's the latest in English so far as I can find, that's from reputable sources. I'm still skeptical, because if there was zero disagreement ... it would have made headlines in English too, at least in vaccine-skeptical sources.
Well, if the goal posts keep being shifted to ever greater degrees of accuracy, then sure. But in reality, causality *can* be proven.
Or any of the other comorbidities. 13 people a day die in NZ from smoking, which has been proven to cause cancer ... but guess what? You can still buy tobacco products. Somehow we're ok with people taking that risk upon themselves and "burdening the healthcare system" ... but we daren't let people go out kitesurfing because something something COVID. Somehow that's a bridge too far, but locking down the country and ruining everyone's life on behalf of a small number is just fine. Or the 500 people a year who died of flu ... don't start me.
That's correlation again. That a single study found waning vaccine effectiveness based on some metric, doesn't necessarily mean that's why the governments are "offering" boosters... but I'm pretty skeptical of their altruistic intentions too.
Flu shot is basically a booster, we get boosters for Tetanus etc. The more at risk you are of being a COVID fatality, the more you should consider a booster. Not an argument for mandating them though...!