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Re: The SAB kraken has landed

Postby Matty V » Thu May 26, 2022 2:57 pm

Foil wrote:
Sun May 15, 2022 7:43 am
well its now confirmed, anyone who has not yet got the kraken mast is going slower, a lot slower!!!
been out often now on the 93k and 103k, and one of my sailing buddies has the 73k mast for his wing and kite foil kit has recorded the speeds on his gps watch, all top speeds and average speeds are way faster,
importantly they feel very much faster, and yesterday I was stopped by one of our regular kite foilers to ask what the hell wing was I using? as my speeds were silly fast, much faster than she had ever seen me ever go, others have made comment to me as well and they know nothing about the SAB Kraken, they just think I have a new technique and or new wing,
no its not, its the mast!! its incredible


edit,
the new long awaited 699 wing with me on tuesday, wow! this will be interesting, direct comparison to the 633 is the 1st test,
then against the 799.
getting over excited
What kind of speeds are you getting now vs before?

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Re: The SAB kraken has landed

Postby a99 » Thu May 26, 2022 3:56 pm

Matty V wrote:
Thu May 26, 2022 2:57 pm
Foil wrote:
Sun May 15, 2022 7:43 am
well its now confirmed, anyone who has not yet got the kraken mast is going slower, a lot slower!!!
been out often now on the 93k and 103k, and one of my sailing buddies has the 73k mast for his wing and kite foil kit has recorded the speeds on his gps watch, all top speeds and average speeds are way faster,
importantly they feel very much faster, and yesterday I was stopped by one of our regular kite foilers to ask what the hell wing was I using? as my speeds were silly fast, much faster than she had ever seen me ever go, others have made comment to me as well and they know nothing about the SAB Kraken, they just think I have a new technique and or new wing,
no its not, its the mast!! its incredible
edit,
the new long awaited 699 wing with me on tuesday, wow! this will be interesting, direct comparison to the 633 is the 1st test,
then against the 799.
getting over excited
What kind of speeds are you getting now vs before?
This >>well its now confirmed, anyone who has not yet got the kraken mast is going slower, a lot slower<< sounds as clear promo, maybe got Kraken half price for promo aims.
We must wait news from others with GPS and videos on 1:1 the same wing comparission. Only than we can make some decisions regarding "lot slower".
Plus Kraken setup has near 1 kg more weight, in such case hydrodynamic must be so perfect briliant to reach even equal speeds of old light setup.

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Re: The SAB kraken has landed

Postby dave1986 » Thu May 26, 2022 11:22 pm

Here are some measurements taken by myself and a friend comparing the three types of SABfoil mast

71cm mast
- Thickness 12.5mm at fuselage end
- Thickness 14mm at centre
- Chord at centre=110mm
- Weight=1270g

72cm C40 mast
- Thickness 15.2mm at fuselage end
- Thickness 18.1mm at centre
- Chord at centre=120mm
- Weight=1694g

73cm Kraken mast
- Thickness=14.5mm at fuselage end.
- Thickness=15mm at centre.
- Chord at centre=115mm.
- Weight (with base plate)=1960g

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Re: The SAB kraken has landed

Postby Foil » Tue Jun 07, 2022 7:20 am

I installed the long awaited quick release pin yesterday, which is hellish expensive for such a small bit of kit, although the presentation box it comes in is worthy of a rolex watch, it takes a little bit of setting up, best to do this at home as some bits are easily dropped as you assemble the parts, but once assembled that's it, just one screw needs removing to pop the mast out of the plate which remains fixed to the board,
warning! anyone like me who tries to ignore reading set up guides will be well advised to read the set up instructions, its not hard to do, but get it wrong and you will regret it, its so important to get the initial set up right, and keep hold of all the little spare parts that you get.
its easy to do, but its also a brand new strange looking bit of kit that needs care installing, and not ripping open on a sandy beach with wet hands.

The provided kit is just for one mast and stays fixed to that mast, nothing is added to the mast plate, so yes if you have 2 masts and want both to work with the quick release pin then at the moment you need to buy 2 complete kits, maybe the price will be reduced by offering the little lock down bar as a separate item as that is all that's needed once you have the main pin part,
is it needed? well if you have to break down all your kit to fit in your car then it will be very helpful in speeding up set up and pack down, a lot!
it is fast and easy. and instead of having all the old mast track screws and nuts (8 of them) to keep safe then you only have one to keep safe.
the big downside is the price.
even I have only one kit, but i will most likely buy another if i can find the cash down the back of the sofa.
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Re: The SAB kraken has landed

Postby airsail » Tue Jun 07, 2022 9:00 pm

Foil wrote:
Tue Jun 07, 2022 7:20 am
I installed the long awaited quick release pin yesterday, which is hellish expensive for such a small bit of kit, although the presentation box it comes in is worthy of a rolex watch, it takes a little bit of setting up, best to do this at home as some bits are easily dropped as you assemble the parts, but once assembled that's it, just one screw needs removing to pop the mast out of the plate which remains fixed to the board,
warning! anyone like me who tries to ignore reading set up guides will be well advised to read the set up instructions, its not hard to do, but get it wrong and you will regret it, its so important to get the initial set up right, and keep hold of all the little spare parts that you get.
its easy to do, but its also a brand new strange looking bit of kit that needs care installing, and not ripping open on a sandy beach with wet hands.

The provided kit is just for one mast and stays fixed to that mast, nothing is added to the mast plate, so yes if you have 2 masts and want both to work with the quick release pin then at the moment you need to buy 2 complete kits, maybe the price will be reduced by offering the little lock down bar as a separate item as that is all that's needed once you have the main pin part,
is it needed? well if you have to break down all your kit to fit in your car then it will be very helpful in speeding up set up and pack down, a lot!
it is fast and easy. and instead of having all the old mast track screws and nuts (8 of them) to keep safe then you only have one to keep safe.
the big downside is the price.
even I have only one kit, but i will most likely buy another if i can find the cash down the back of the sofa.
So you leave the alloy plate attached to the board. That plate has a heap of cavities under it holding salt water, which gradually leak in your car. And after getting home you have to pull it off to rinse it. Doesn’t sound any faster than the old system, just more maintenance.

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Re: The SAB kraken has landed

Postby Foil » Wed Jun 08, 2022 7:00 am

airsail wrote:
Tue Jun 07, 2022 9:00 pm
So you leave the alloy plate attached to the board. That plate has a heap of cavities under it holding salt water, which gradually leak in your car. And after getting home you have to pull it off to rinse it. Doesn’t sound any faster than the old system, just more maintenance.
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right to flag up the possibility but in fact Wrong,
you take off the mast by removing one short 10mm pin, this of course leaves a massive mast socket in the base plate along with the 2 x10mm holes where the pin was sitting, any "trapped' water water is free to leave, but due to fact there are channels for any water to escape it left anyways on the way back to the beach,as for rinsing with fresh water its a good idea to rinse all parts at the de rig area, i always take a couple of 2ltr bottles of clean tap water to clean all parts including wings and bar and harness,
your remarks are a valid concern or would be if there was any chance of trapped sea water wetting your car, but due to the channels and the fact when the mast is removed that the very big open mast socket gap is exposed giving a good opportunity to rinse out with fresh water,
which in my book is a better option to keep things clean at the de rig area before drying, placing in soft covers and then placing in the car, all sensible stuff in my book.
more maintenance is a fact if owning the kraken system,
do you need to buy the system, NO
would I swap back to the old system?
not a chance!!!!

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Re: The SAB kraken has landed

Postby SparD » Mon Jun 13, 2022 9:47 am

If you have one foil but 2 boards, do you need 2 plates and 2 QR kits or 2 plates and 1 QR kit is enough ?

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Re: The SAB kraken has landed

Postby Foil » Wed Jun 15, 2022 6:59 pm

SparD wrote:
Mon Jun 13, 2022 9:47 am
If you have one foil but 2 boards, do you need 2 plates and 2 QR kits or 2 plates and 1 QR kit is enough ?
I did wonder that myself, but now I am the owner of 2 boards and now 2 kraken base plates, one fixed to each board, I can confirm you only need one QR kit, as the pin is removable and swaps over to the 2nd boards base plate, and the QR bar that you get in the kit becomes a fixed part of the mast top section, and is left in place, no need to ever remove, however if you want to use different length masts then it may be best to buy another QR kit to use the special lock down bar on the 2nd mast.
I am hoping the bar part of the kit becomes available without the pin, if not then a 2nd kit may be best to enable the quick release system to be used.


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