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Re: Janek injured again

Postby Matty V » Fri May 27, 2022 7:04 am

The organisers are cocks. Holding an event with rocks submerged in the actual riding zone, It’s fucking stupid.

Of course they will have got every rider to sign a waiver removing any responsibility from injury, Holy shit it’s pathetic especially the way that the event carried on and was all happy smiley and stoked with a rider sat in hospital with potentially career ending injury because they chose a needlessly dangerous site. I guarantee that the risk assessment document for the venue wouldn’t stand up in court

Is it the same team to organise the events in Brazil with some kid landed headfirst into 2 feet of water?

At least with injuries that occurred at red bull King of the Earth it wasn’t because the organisers had chosen the zone with rocks shallow enough underwater to cause injury.

Yes kiteboarding is dangerous yes people take risks yes at the very top level those risks are bigger but for f***’s sake as a sport brands and people running the competitions have a responsibility to ensure that the competition zone is free from obstructions

It’s great that Red Bull and Core are supporting him at the moment but at some point the insurance cheques gonna run out and what you got to show for it? smashed ankles and legs that don’t work properly or if they do not back to the level that he was at and for what? competing for €1000? The risks being asked of the riders far outweigh any financial reward or compensation that’s actually available to them should something terrible happened that they have to live with for the rest of their lives
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Re: Janek injured again

Postby andylc » Fri May 27, 2022 9:02 am

I heard not dissimilar stories from Red Bull Rampage that some riders who might otherwise not have entered were pressurised by sponsors to go. There have been some pretty awful injuries there too.

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Re: Janek injured again

Postby Matty V » Fri May 27, 2022 5:11 pm

It’s a case of perform or we will replace you.

Get injured you get your arm round the shoulder and we’re still gonna replace you because you know what we’ve got shit to sell and you’re not selling anything doing rehab.

I don’t know if there is actually a riders Association anymore but the bloody well needs to be a need to take the organisers to task to ensure better safety standards and better event site allocation

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Re: Janek injured again

Postby Desert kite » Fri May 27, 2022 5:52 pm

Im not too knowledgable about this stuff but ive been to that spot in tarifa and pros ride there all the time(since no rescue boats=no beginners and the thermal near the rocks kicking you up) but is there no way to take out that rock or cut it up in half so it doesnt stick out at lowtide.
Its one of the most popular spots for advanced riders in the most popular kite town in europe and it has safety issues. Ah and also events are hosted there.. would kill any event organizer if this shit happened during the comp.
I would guess removing that rock would cost between 30-50k
Thats a small price to pay.

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Re: Janek injured again

Postby Matty V » Fri May 27, 2022 6:28 pm

It’s only the spot to ride because the rest of the coast line has been built on

Removing rocks isn't going to happen

Holding events there is bloody stupid also the proximity of the town makes the wind prone to holes and makes the wind unpredictable

The fact his injury happened marginally outside the event window is the only saving grace for the organisers, I had thought it happened during, maybe that’s why they were so utterly unconcerned on the live feed, Nothing to do with us nothing to see move on

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Re: Janek injured again

Postby CaptainKook » Sat May 28, 2022 8:04 am

If Janek had submitted his entry to the Competition before the accident happened, it could be argued he was
officially training for that competition, at the designated competition location.

Would be interesting to know the date Janek made his sponsor aware he was entering the comp...or was told by them he was entering it.....that would confirm he was officially training when the accident happened.

Would like to know date of Janeks entry into the comp.

Would like to know the date the risk assessment was signed off......surely this was months before the event was marketed?

His sponsors and the organizers have a responsibility for the safety of their riders, and ensure risk assessments of comp locations are properly carried out.

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Re: Janek injured again

Postby UKSurf » Sat May 28, 2022 10:02 am

I totally agree that event organisers and the sport in general needs to look at the risk pro riders are being asked to take in big air events. I would not be at all surprised if The impact from crashes in high altitude, high speed moves does not lead to long term brain injury in pro riders. I have seen interviews with a couple of top riders who sound a bit punch drunk.
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Re: Janek injured again

Postby luca » Sun May 29, 2022 2:12 pm

By law when he is official working for his sponsor/employer occupational risk assessments needs to be done. His sponsor/employer is responsible for him and the safety when performing his job. Out of the risk assessments the employer needs to perform an induction training for him to tell him all about the safety measures. If he doesnt follow the induction advices the employer is fine by law. If they havent done it can be really critical incl. jail by death and expensive for the company.

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Re: Janek injured again

Postby nherbold » Sun May 29, 2022 3:39 pm

This topic seems to be taking a turn towards assigning blame etc., which can only be Janek.

And sponsors pushing their riders to or over the limit can't be news to anyone as this is innate to this sport. How many riders achieve their 15 minutes of fame by doing something absolutely retarded/dangerous to get that sponsorship in the first place? The latest stunt that comes to mind is the guy jumping out of a plane with a wing to have the longest 'glide'..and what a glide it was.
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Re: Janek injured again

Postby Matty V » Sun May 29, 2022 6:09 pm

It’s more about Event organisers taking some responsibility for venue selection when one of the brightest stars of their tour has been horribly injured training at the same spot that they then hold the event at not thinking that that might not be the best idea
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