Localizer wrote: ↑
Mon May 16, 2022 2:39 am
Damn. I spent a few days offline and some of you really went at it in the meantime. Some of you people are ruthless
There used to be some respect for localism. There were certain surf spots, certain bike trails, or certain backcountry ski areas you just relented to the locals if you were new or from out of town. I guess those days are gone. Everyone’s woke now.
Any Hawaiians out there? You guys know what I’m talking about. I guess I’ll fight fire with fire too
This whole post has brought up so many unpleasant memories! I've seen several rarely used sites blow up quickly, then get banned. Now, years later, no one goes there and a few of the original locals have returned. Other sites, on public recreation land, have had organizations formed, access granted, rules posted, etc.
You can't tell people they can't do what you do, unless it's private land and you have the owners permission. You can, however, make it clear to them that your enjoyment and use of the spot is jeapardized by their presence and actions. Explain the rules, make them feel like a "local" and hopefully they will help keep it low key such that no official ban occurs. If they are truly dangerous and unruly, then by all means tell them they are not welcome and that the kite spot is a mile away. Too bad modern kite valves are so difficult to walk up and pop the valve....
I'm always amazed at the Aloha Hawaiians will show, once you show them respect and point out that you are just visiting!