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Re: Localism - How to keep people out of your kite spot

Postby kct » Mon May 16, 2022 3:29 am

Trent hink wrote:
Sun May 15, 2022 8:18 pm
One of the new things happening on the west coast of Florida, is that property owners have started marking off what they believe to be their private property with no trespassing signs.
I grew up in Venice FL and would not say it's a *new* thing. Even my parents have stories about fights for public access from decades.

Now I live in California where it's arguably worse. FL has nothing as egregious as Hollister Ranch. I swear wealthy coastal property owners close off beaches for sport.

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Re: Localism - How to keep people out of your kite spot

Postby 1234567Simon » Mon May 16, 2022 6:52 am

This is Europe: regular Weekend in Summer.

No Photoshop.....

Funny thing is, that a lot of people still do not roll Up the lines after landing ... Some do not even land, but just place the Kite on the water and Drink Something....


IMG_20220516_070220.jpg

This is an older picture.... I think the trees are Cut of by now.... Haven't been there for some time

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Re: Localism - How to keep people out of your kite spot

Postby Havre » Mon May 16, 2022 7:16 am

Many places in Europe in around August is quite ridiculous. So wouldn’t blame people for looking for their own spots.

And yeah - not rolling up your lines is a classic. Not exactly uncommon to lay out yours on top of someone for someone else to land on yours while you are getting ready to launch :lol:
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Re: Localism - How to keep people out of your kite spot

Postby Pokitren » Mon May 16, 2022 8:09 am

1234567Simon wrote:
Mon May 16, 2022 6:52 am
This is Europe: regular Weekend in Summer.

No Photoshop.....

Funny thing is, that a lot of people still do not roll Up the lines after landing ... Some do not even land, but just place the Kite on the water and Drink Something....



IMG_20220516_070220.jpg


This is an older picture.... I think the trees are Cut of by now.... Haven't been there for some time
I saw such beauty in Croatia when I was passing through. It really looks beautiful :)

Hi all, let me join your forum.

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Re: Localism - How to keep people out of your kite spot

Postby RedSky » Mon May 16, 2022 9:29 am

I buggy right over those lines
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Re: Localism - How to keep people out of your kite spot

Postby ham-er » Mon May 16, 2022 2:45 pm

Pokitren wrote:
Mon May 16, 2022 8:09 am

I saw such beauty in Croatia when I was passing through. It really looks beautiful :)
Couldn't agree more, large amount of kites on a beautiful day looks just spectacular 👌
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Re: Localism - How to keep people out of your kite spot

Postby Clarencephil » Tue May 17, 2022 2:56 am

1234567Simon wrote:
Mon May 16, 2022 6:52 am




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This is an older picture.... I think the trees are Cut of by now.... Haven't been there for some time

Where is this?

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Re: Localism - How to keep people out of your kite spot

Postby sewerrat » Tue May 17, 2022 6:06 pm

Localizer wrote:
Mon May 16, 2022 2:39 am
Damn. I spent a few days offline and some of you really went at it in the meantime. Some of you people are ruthless

There used to be some respect for localism. There were certain surf spots, certain bike trails, or certain backcountry ski areas you just relented to the locals if you were new or from out of town. I guess those days are gone. Everyone’s woke now.

Any Hawaiians out there? You guys know what I’m talking about. I guess I’ll fight fire with fire too
This whole post has brought up so many unpleasant memories! I've seen several rarely used sites blow up quickly, then get banned. Now, years later, no one goes there and a few of the original locals have returned. Other sites, on public recreation land, have had organizations formed, access granted, rules posted, etc.

You can't tell people they can't do what you do, unless it's private land and you have the owners permission. You can, however, make it clear to them that your enjoyment and use of the spot is jeapardized by their presence and actions. Explain the rules, make them feel like a "local" and hopefully they will help keep it low key such that no official ban occurs. If they are truly dangerous and unruly, then by all means tell them they are not welcome and that the kite spot is a mile away. Too bad modern kite valves are so difficult to walk up and pop the valve....

I'm always amazed at the Aloha Hawaiians will show, once you show them respect and point out that you are just visiting!

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Re: Localism - How to keep people out of your kite spot

Postby kishtsang » Wed May 18, 2022 3:12 pm



Where is this?
Mirns, The Netherlands

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Re: Localism - How to keep people out of your kite spot

Postby DefyInertia » Wed May 18, 2022 7:14 pm

I think people are making out the issue and the OP to be something it isn’t.

Just approach these other kiters without aggression and share the details of the situation. Maybe get their view first and see where they are coming from and then tailor your spiel appropriately. There is mutual interest here.

I don’t think the OP feels entitled to the spot. Just because he wants to avoid the whole thing going to shit does not mean he feels he has superior rights to the spot.

Rabid localism is lame. Always. On the other hand, expecting people to think about how their presence is felt and act in a way that does not ruin a spot unnecessarily is completely legit. Fine line between the two but one is selfish entitlement and the other is just normal social behavior for the greatest good.
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