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Big Air Kites for "Plus" Sized Riders Review

Postby Blackened » Thu Oct 06, 2022 8:23 pm

Popped up in my video suggestions. Really long, but good/enjoyable overall review of the kites for us fatties. Unfortunately missing the Duotone Rebel SLS, which I'm most interested in off the list of big air kites.

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Re: Big Air Kites for "Plus" Sized Riders Review

Postby marinjo » Thu Oct 06, 2022 9:30 pm

Good review, keep going, try to add rebel sls and fone trigger

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Re: Big Air Kites for "Plus" Sized Riders Review

Postby Toby » Fri Oct 07, 2022 1:01 pm

Now we need one for heavy guys in 15-20 knots.
Small kites get reviews everywhere, would be interested in 15+ kites for 90+ riders. Foils and tubes.

Anyone has access and can do it ?
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Re: Big Air Kites for "Plus" Sized Riders Review

Postby SENDIT! » Fri Oct 07, 2022 8:54 pm

Anyone else wondering why TF he keeps pulling in and out on the bar so much? He must wear out a lot of the PU tubing. I feel like it must be a bad habit he has, sort of like motorcycle riders sitting still at a traffic light and revving the throttle over and over. lol

Overall pretty good review, I think!

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Re: Big Air Kites for "Plus" Sized Riders Review

Postby Windigo1 » Fri Oct 07, 2022 9:22 pm

Toby wrote:
Fri Oct 07, 2022 1:01 pm
Now we need one for heavy guys in 15-20 knots.
Small kites get reviews everywhere, would be interested in 15+ kites for 90+ riders. Foils and tubes.

Anyone has access and can do it ?
Yep I agree for those of us who get mostly light wind it's a whole different game! Big kites are often designed differently and a great 9m doesn't equate to a great 15m if you just scale up the same design!
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Re: Big Air Kites for "Plus" Sized Riders Review

Postby Blackened » Sat Oct 08, 2022 12:09 am

SENDIT! wrote:
Fri Oct 07, 2022 8:54 pm
Anyone else wondering why TF he keeps pulling in and out on the bar so much? He must wear out a lot of the PU tubing. I feel like it must be a bad habit he has, sort of like motorcycle riders sitting still at a traffic light and revving the throttle over and over. lol

Overall pretty good review, I think!
No idea. Usually you do it to encourage the kite to climb, but most of those are plenty high enough to get caught. Although, there are a few you can see the panic :D.

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Re: Big Air Kites for "Plus" Sized Riders Review

Postby Tone » Mon Oct 10, 2022 8:54 am

Blackened wrote:
Sat Oct 08, 2022 12:09 am
SENDIT! wrote:
Fri Oct 07, 2022 8:54 pm
Anyone else wondering why TF he keeps pulling in and out on the bar so much? He must wear out a lot of the PU tubing. I feel like it must be a bad habit he has, sort of like motorcycle riders sitting still at a traffic light and revving the throttle over and over. lol

Overall pretty good review, I think!
No idea. Usually you do it to encourage the kite to climb, but most of those are plenty high enough to get caught. Although, there are a few you can see the panic :D.
Yeah I think it's trying to get the kite to fly a bit faster above his head when he's not sure the kite will catch him. Probably not required, just bar out and then back in on landing.

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Re: Big Air Kites for "Plus" Sized Riders Review

Postby Havre » Mon Oct 10, 2022 10:24 am

Maybe a bit "vanilla", but a great summary.

It would have been great if he had done the same, as Toby mentions, with less wind.

And I really wish Ozone released a new bar soon. Just make a wider Dreamstick X please.

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Re: Big Air Kites for "Plus" Sized Riders Review

Postby cor » Mon Oct 10, 2022 12:17 pm

SENDIT! wrote:
Fri Oct 07, 2022 8:54 pm
Anyone else wondering why TF he keeps pulling in and out on the bar so much?
It´s a bad habit and it´s also bullshit in my opinion, because the kite will actually recover slower. If you pull the backlines, the kite will not stroke up but stall/be kept in the wind window. However, I´ve seen some people doing exactly that and I gave it a try in case in was missing something, but when I do this with my Evo SLS, it will be much slower in the upstroke. Also, when you watch the pros doing loops you never see this.

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Re: Big Air Kites for "Plus" Sized Riders Review

Postby galzohar » Mon Oct 10, 2022 8:24 pm

Had a few days with a demo Rebel SLS 2023 11m (I am 84kg). Winds were between 15-22 knots mostly. Seems like the kite loops nicely, although as an 11m it is very slow... Yet the climb after the loop is very fast. Airtime was low so I needed 20 knots for easy boardoffs. One still needs at least 22-23 knot gust with my weight to loop it, and still it was tricky to get the loop done right. So seems like minimum wind for kitelooping is independent (or barely dependent) on kite size, and the heavier you are the more wing you will need for looping. Although with my FX (open-c) I remember needing 2-3 knots more compared to Rebel/Orbit.

So overall I think heavier riders should probably use the same big air kites, just at a different wind range... Doesn't seem like you can compensate for weight with kite size/type here, like you could do (to some degree) for frestyle or airstyle...
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