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Shoulder pains flying small peaks

Postby Allarounder » Sun Feb 11, 2024 11:13 am

Every time i fly peak 4 my shoulder really hurts during the session and a few days after.
On the 5m or other kites it doesn't happen.


Probably it happens because all the small adjustments it needs while flying .

Anyone else is experiencing this as well ?

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Re: Shoulder pains flying small peaks

Postby lederhosen » Sun Feb 11, 2024 11:25 am

Maybe the distance and angle at which you hold full power does not fit and that makes your shoulder cramp up.
I have had a problem with my arm when I had the powered up distance too close to my body.

You could try either putting a rope loop in between your harness and the QR or you extend the spreader rope.

I now ride with quite some space to the QR and zero backstall trimmed in.
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Re: Shoulder pains flying small peaks

Postby Allarounder » Sun Feb 11, 2024 2:03 pm

Thx , will try .

How do you foot swith with this straps set up ?

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Re: Shoulder pains flying small peaks

Postby alekbelia » Sun Feb 11, 2024 2:19 pm

Allarounder wrote:
Sun Feb 11, 2024 11:13 am
Every time i fly peak 4 my shoulder really hurts during the session and a few days after.
I kite very often, at least 3 days a week only on relatively small singleskin kites on both water and snow.
I always drive the 2.5 and 4 sq. sizes with minimal effort and prefer them to the larger sizes.
I have a feeling that because of the faster speed of the small kites, maybe you are statically straining your muscles for a longer period of time and that is causing the pain.
One more reason is heavy bar. Something like tennis elbow.

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Re: Shoulder pains flying small peaks

Postby Jyoder » Sun Feb 11, 2024 3:34 pm

Problem: Riding toeside with lots of carving and kite movement means your shoulder often is in a position where, if it’s internally rotated, you are at risk of muscle injury. Just hold a light stick in your hand and move it around with internal shoulder rotation and you will feel it straining your infraspinatus!

Solution: Learn to disassociate bar orientation from kite orientation a bit so you can keep your bar horizontal or even a bit externally rotated instead of internally rotated.

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Re: Shoulder pains flying small peaks

Postby Jyoder » Sun Feb 11, 2024 4:21 pm

Also, on long tacks I often rest my shoulder muscles by holding the bar with hand inverted from normal position. Nice rest and relaxing position for foiling distances.
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Re: Shoulder pains flying small peaks

Postby lederhosen » Sun Feb 11, 2024 5:14 pm

Jyoder wrote:
Sun Feb 11, 2024 4:21 pm
Nice rest and relaxing position for foiling distances.
Yes! And better one hand steering

Allarounder wrote: How do you foot swith with this straps set up ?
Getting into the straps is the same, getting out when you fall is easier.

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Re: Shoulder pains flying small peaks

Postby Peter_Frank » Sun Feb 11, 2024 6:02 pm

I agree with lederhosen, it must be something with your trim not being spot on, so you have your arm/shoulder slightly different than on the other sizes.

If you have a fixed bar on the 4 m2, easy to adjust the rearlines, if not, still easy, but you have to shorten the rear lines or lengthen the fronts at the kite - or reverse, depending on "where" you are off :D

How far away from your CL have you set the bar sweetspot?
I have shortened the rearlines 10 to 15 cm compared to the default setting - so I ride with bar quite far away from me, least stress this way for me.
But this is personal - just dont ride with the bar all the way in of course, gives you a very stressful arm/shoulder position when carving.

The 4 m2 doesnt have much bar pressure, so thats not it :naughty:
I would say the 4 m2 is a lot less tiring than all bigger sizes, as you need such gentle inputs only.

Also as one said, dont ride toeside for longer tacks - can be very bad for both arms in fact.
No problem if you never has a problem - but IF you do, this can enhance the problem.

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Re: Shoulder pains flying small peaks

Postby sflinux » Mon Feb 12, 2024 5:42 am

Have you tried shortening your flying lines?

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Re: Shoulder pains flying small peaks

Postby Peter_Frank » Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:21 am

sflinux wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2024 5:42 am
Have you tried shortening your flying lines?
What is "flying lines", front or rearlines? (power or steering lines)

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